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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Who would price ice cream?


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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    Who would price ice cream?


    Anything to back that up?
    I couldn't find anything to verify that the state sets minimum retail prices.
    I really doubt that to be the case.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    Who would price ice cream?


    Anything to back that up?
    I couldn't find anything to verify that the state sets minimum retail prices.
    I really doubt that to be the case.
    This should answer your questions.....

    https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/dairy/Milk_Pricing_Works.html
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Bentleyspop said:
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    Who would price ice cream?


    Anything to back that up?
    I couldn't find anything to verify that the state sets minimum retail prices.
    I really doubt that to be the case.
    This should answer your questions.....

    https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/dairy/Milk_Pricing_Works.html
    I read that already, doesn't say anything about retail price.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Texas would still suck.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Texas would still suck.
     
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Texas would still suck.
     
    Yup, it would.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,993
    Bentleyspop said:
    rgambs said:
    unsung said:
    Who would price ice cream?


    Anything to back that up?
    I couldn't find anything to verify that the state sets minimum retail prices.
    I really doubt that to be the case.
    This should answer your questions.....

    https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/dairy/Milk_Pricing_Works.html
    A little slow on the milk thing. But I've heard of this before, its common. I'm pretty sure it only applies to the manufactures paying the ranchers/farmers for their milk product. Not the final sale of milk products in the grocery store. Its designed to protect the milk farmers, and if the grocery store wants to sell ice cream for a 10 cent profit that doesn't affect them.
    For example Blue Bell has to pay a predetermined price for their cream and milk to make ice cream. But they can sell their ice cream for however much they want, they can sell it at a loss if they want to, the milk farmers were already paid.
    Either I'm misinformed or that store was, or wanted a reason to give customers why they are suddenly price gouging. 
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.fayobserver.com/news/20170827/senate-map-gerrymandered-for-senators-house

    Still, this past week as the Republican-controlled legislature worked on revisions to the state House and Senate district boundaries, the Senate Redistricting Committee adjusted the boundaries of the proposed Senate 21 to encompass Clark’s new house.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Hey, it looks like the Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying admitted they were wrong for fining that engineer who had the audacity to say he was an engineer. Lol. Hopefully they're a little less trigger happy violating peoples' free speech rights in the future, but unfortunately their admission applies only to Järlström. Next time I'm sure they'll limit their violations of peoples' rights to those who can't afford attorneys. 

    State board concedes it violated free speech rights of red-light camera critic



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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    in manitoba they have basically come out and admitted that red light cameras are nothing but a cash grab. fighting the tickets is easy as the technology is disputable if people put in the time. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited December 2017
    I like red light and speed cameras. Fuck the assholes who run red lights and speed. I think the fines they get should be higher. However, I only like them if they work properly, obviously. If there are cases where the light timing is fucking people over, that's not cool at all.
    I'm glad the State Board admitted what they did was wrong too. Freedom of speech is important. And I absolutely adore whistleblowers (for the most part).
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
    Chicago was caught shortening the yellow light timing after red light cameras were installed, and after they installed the speed cameras they removed a bunch of speed bumps.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
    Chicago was caught shortening the yellow light timing after red light cameras were installed, and after they installed the speed cameras they removed a bunch of speed bumps.
    I know, I paid more than my fair share when I lived there.

    Got whacked rolling red on red.  That particular camera issued over 10,000 tickets in 2.5 months.  Over 100/day.  $1MM in revenue for the city.

    The only reason it got pulled is because it was near a mall and people threatened to stop shopping there.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Libel lawsuits wouldn’t be possible. And if they were, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh would be in debtor’s prison. But free speech yo!
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Red light cameras...oh a whole 'nother topic.  
    Not in MN.  Speed cameras either.  Hell, they don't even monitor the toll lanes.  Another reason I love this state. 
    Chicago was caught shortening the yellow light timing after red light cameras were installed, and after they installed the speed cameras they removed a bunch of speed bumps.
    Whatever happened to personal responsibility? You need speed bumps to avoid the speed cameras? Incapable of driving the speed limit? It’s all big governments fault.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,216
    unsung said:
    That's some interesting logic. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,678
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    Libertarianism 101
    Neat little thought experiments and logic problems utterly devoid of consideration for practical reality.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
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    eddieceddiec Posts: 3,835
    unsung said:
    Kind of a ridiculous chart. So if something isn't important to you than it's not important to 320 million other people? Libertarianism? Sounds like selfishness.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited December 2017
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,937
    unsung said:
    Cool chart. Can you add “Do you have any money left for it?” and appropriate streams above “People would pay for it voluntarily”?

    I’m guessing one of those streams would ask “Are you a worthy contributing member of society?” directly above the “Should’ve worked harder; go die and help population control”.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:
     L.p.unsung said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    unsung said:

    sounds like a veiled endorsement of homeschooling. in the real world, those three cogs are dysfunctional.
    And for some reason, this poster has omitted a very large cog- administration.
    also funding. but in libertarian logic, you have to leave those things out to make your point.
    Not really worried about funding.  There would be no government schools.
    It's always nice when you let your guard down and show how extreme your belief system is.
    I've never once said govt schools were ok in my book.
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