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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Keep making excuses for big government.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,730
    unsung said:

    Keep making excuses for big government.

    Ha! Couldn't come up with a better comeback than that one?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    Keep making excuses for big government.

    Ha! Couldn't come up with a better comeback than that one?
    Not much else needs to be said.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Without government...

    Who would collude with Monsanto to snuff out independent studies?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-14/court-docs-prove-monsanto-collusion-epa-kill-cancer-study-admits-cant-say-roundup-do
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,565
    unsung said:

    Without government...

    Who would collude with Monsanto to snuff out independent studies?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-14/court-docs-prove-monsanto-collusion-epa-kill-cancer-study-admits-cant-say-roundup-do

    Hahaha that's too funny!
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,535
    You wouldn't be here postín unless you can post via smoke signals !
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  • MalrothMalroth broken down chevroletPosts: 1,410
    .....a new way to pound the common folk would be improvised by even worse people.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Without government...

    Who would install cyanide traps on public land and kill family pets?

    http://fox6now.com/2017/03/19/orange-gas-everywhere-idaho-boy-sprayed-by-cyanide-explosive-used-by-usda-his-dog-killed/
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,370
    Without government, you wouldn't be able to use the phrase "public land".
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,787
    unsung said:

    Without government...

    Who would collude with Monsanto to snuff out independent studies?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-14/court-docs-prove-monsanto-collusion-epa-kill-cancer-study-admits-cant-say-roundup-do

    I don't understand where you get the premise that government is the root cause of corruption - people are. People in social environments have always naturally converged at a form of governance. In addition to this fact that you yourself have admitted is true (i.e. an un-governed nation is not attainable), it is naive and unrealistic to say that somehow with less formal structure, corruption would be absent.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,562
    you guys are wasting your time
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,609
    edited March 27
    Thought I would post this example of government idiocy before someone else does....

    Man says teen daughter billed nearly $3,000 for guardrail that killed her
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-says-daughter-hannah-eimers-billed-for-guardrail-that-killed-her/
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 1,245

    Thought I would post this example of government idiocy before someone else does....

    Man says teen daughter billed nearly $3,000 for guardrail that killed her
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-says-daughter-hannah-eimers-billed-for-guardrail-that-killed-her/

    Sad story. But the article doesn't give a lot of detail, but honestly if it was negligent driving, or alcohol involved, I think the family should be responsible for the cost. The article doesn't say what the cause was so I have no idea.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 7,735

    Thought I would post this example of government idiocy before someone else does....

    Man says teen daughter billed nearly $3,000 for guardrail that killed her
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-says-daughter-hannah-eimers-billed-for-guardrail-that-killed-her/

    Wasn't this in Tennessee? You know, rabid republican Tennessee?

    Yea Mace! Showing some compassion.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 1,245
    I feel terrible for the child and her family, it's a tragic story. But the article left out a lot of details for that particular part of the story to be relevant. All the article had to do was state it was weather relegated or something, but leaving out any details was suspicious, and my first thought was a 17 year old crashing into a stationary object she was probably on her phone.
    My point was as sad as a story as it is, it doesn't seem unreasonable for the owner of the property to seek out compensation, even if the owner is the government. So I don't know why this partilcuar story is relevant here.
    Just because you die as a result of a car accident does not relieve you from financial responsibility. What if she crashed into some private property instead of government, and the owners were seeking compensation, would you feel different?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    Thought I would post this example of government idiocy before someone else does....

    Man says teen daughter billed nearly $3,000 for guardrail that killed her
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-says-daughter-hannah-eimers-billed-for-guardrail-that-killed-her/

    Wasn't this in Tennessee? You know, rabid republican Tennessee?

    Yea Mace! Showing some compassion.
    Two wings.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,461
    unsung said:

    Thought I would post this example of government idiocy before someone else does....

    Man says teen daughter billed nearly $3,000 for guardrail that killed her
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-says-daughter-hannah-eimers-billed-for-guardrail-that-killed-her/

    Wasn't this in Tennessee? You know, rabid republican Tennessee?

    Yea Mace! Showing some compassion.
    Two wings.

    Same bird.
    what's a libertarian then? the beak? or something else?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,370
    The wind beneath the wings?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,461

    The wind beneath the wings?

    behind the wings.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 7,735
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,622
    ...who would require regular boiler inspections?

    2 new employees filling out paperwork among dead in St. Louis boiler explosion

    Or is this just the free market at work?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    CM189191 said:

    ...who would require regular boiler inspections?

    2 new employees filling out paperwork among dead in St. Louis boiler explosion

    Or is this just the free market at work?

    So government had a compliance program, which was being followed, and the equipment failed anyway?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,565
    unsung said:

    CM189191 said:

    ...who would require regular boiler inspections?

    2 new employees filling out paperwork among dead in St. Louis boiler explosion

    Or is this just the free market at work?

    So government had a compliance program, which was being followed, and the equipment failed anyway?
    Is that what you took away from that? Twisted.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Without government...

    Who would use force assisting private companies?


    http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/04/11/overlooked-fact/

  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,622
    unsung said:

    Without government...

    Who would use force assisting private companies?


    http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/04/11/overlooked-fact/

    Funny. Isn't this your libertarian paradise? The rule of law is the highest corporate bidder.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,370
    unsung said:

    Without government...

    Who would use force assisting private companies?


    http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/04/11/overlooked-fact/

    People across all politcal spectrums push for regulation. I don't see more of it with the left than I do the right. I do see the right be totally infatuated with law enforcement, though.

    How would your desired ban on abortion be enforced again?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,461
    The cognitive disconnect with the Progressive Left is that they hate cops but love making regulations. You can’t have one without the other. You can’t micromanage people’s lives without police there, using force, to make people comply with the micromanagement.

    and the right love cops but hate regulations (unless it's in the bible), making a cops job virtually impossible, and chaos ensues.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 35,846
    I don't feel like the progressive left hates cops at all. I think they just hate bad cops as well as the systemic corruption and other insidious problems that are undeniably wound into so many forces across the country (Canada too). Meanwhile, the right seem much more willing to basically show support for cops with basically no caveats, aside from the fact that they are happy to tear apart "rats" (which I think it dangerous and destructive).
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