Syria and the US's Motive

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:


    Someone please explain to me why the only military in the war room is the person watching the door?

    Funny indeed but that isn't the "war room" as I assume you are aware. That is Mar-a-lago during/after the China meeting. The military people are on video conference from the Pentagon of course. But please...continue.
    So it's been confirmed that this is indeed a meeting about the Syria mission in the so-called Mar-a-lago situation room. I am curious as to what your comment means here. Were you inventing a fact, trying to suggest this isn't the full gang of idiots behind an act of war? Or simply wanted point out that this isn't in the WH war room?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    If all the past chemical attacks were done by the terrorists / rebels in hopes of pullling the west into action and the all failed .... why would the terrorists / rebels try doing it again after the White House indicated they were not going to interfere with Syria.

    You would have to be a pretty stupid terrorist / rebel to think that would work.

    But if your a brutal dictator that maybe didn't turn over all of your chemical weapons and just heard the White House say they were going to be hands off, I'd think that would be a good time to go shooting some chemical weapons.

    uhhh ... this doesn't make any sense ... chemical attack just happened = US intervention ... so, your theory holds absolutely no water ...
    Assad was testing a new leader and how Trump would respond. One week after Trump Administration say hands off and we have a chemical weapons attack. It makes sense. Water held.
    you got to be kidding me ...

    syria is finally winning the war, they even have a US congresswoman supporting them, trump has stated that they don't want to intervene ... so, the smart thing to do is then gas your own people!?? ... c'mon ... this is not thinking critically ... what does assad gain? ... does he endear himself to his people - no ... does he garner more international support - no ... international support he desperately needs because he is fighting fucking al qaeda AND ISIS ...
    Once the body count goes past 400K, I don't think being endeared by your people is near the top of your to-do list. He has Russia backing him, ready to lie. Just tell the people he has under control that terrorist did it (like he is), so he isn't losing any shame to them.
    if he's fighting al qaeda and isis - the last thing he needs is having his people turn on him ... gassing his own people is not only impossible because he has no chemical weapons - it is totally illogical ... watch interviews of assad - he is not some raging dictator lunatic trope ...
    Even more scary that Assad isn't a raging lunatic. He keeps his pulse under 60 while carpet bombing Aleppo. Demoralize the population by giving zero fucks on if your enemy or your citizens are killed and herd them out. Siege the city and starve everyone out.

    And to claim Assad doesn't have any chemical weapons but the Jihads do is totally illogical. Even if he did turn over every chemical weapon he had (doubtful), he has had around 4 years to make some more.
    it's not illogical ... did you read the articles pointing to ISIS and chemical weapons? ... where is your response? ... the UN organization oversaw the dismantling of syria's chemical weapons ... that oversight doesn't just end after it's over ... it continues to present day ...
    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    If all the past chemical attacks were done by the terrorists / rebels in hopes of pullling the west into action and the all failed .... why would the terrorists / rebels try doing it again after the White House indicated they were not going to interfere with Syria.

    You would have to be a pretty stupid terrorist / rebel to think that would work.

    But if your a brutal dictator that maybe didn't turn over all of your chemical weapons and just heard the White House say they were going to be hands off, I'd think that would be a good time to go shooting some chemical weapons.

    uhhh ... this doesn't make any sense ... chemical attack just happened = US intervention ... so, your theory holds absolutely no water ...
    Assad was testing a new leader and how Trump would respond. One week after Trump Administration say hands off and we have a chemical weapons attack. It makes sense. Water held.
    you got to be kidding me ...

    syria is finally winning the war, they even have a US congresswoman supporting them, trump has stated that they don't want to intervene ... so, the smart thing to do is then gas your own people!?? ... c'mon ... this is not thinking critically ... what does assad gain? ... does he endear himself to his people - no ... does he garner more international support - no ... international support he desperately needs because he is fighting fucking al qaeda AND ISIS ...
    Once the body count goes past 400K, I don't think being endeared by your people is near the top of your to-do list. He has Russia backing him, ready to lie. Just tell the people he has under control that terrorist did it (like he is), so he isn't losing any shame to them.
    if he's fighting al qaeda and isis - the last thing he needs is having his people turn on him ... gassing his own people is not only impossible because he has no chemical weapons - it is totally illogical ... watch interviews of assad - he is not some raging dictator lunatic trope ...
    Even more scary that Assad isn't a raging lunatic. He keeps his pulse under 60 while carpet bombing Aleppo. Demoralize the population by giving zero fucks on if your enemy or your citizens are killed and herd them out. Siege the city and starve everyone out.

    And to claim Assad doesn't have any chemical weapons but the Jihads do is totally illogical. Even if he did turn over every chemical weapon he had (doubtful), he has had around 4 years to make some more.
    it's not illogical ... did you read the articles pointing to ISIS and chemical weapons? ... where is your response? ... the UN organization oversaw the dismantling of syria's chemical weapons ... that oversight doesn't just end after it's over ... it continues to present day ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    I Googled ISIS and chemical weapons. Thr 1st thing that came up was an institute that cited rebel / terrorists chem attacks were from local reports, social media, and ISIS propaganda. They stated "ISIS propaganda" as one of their 3 sources.

    I did similar citations when I was stoned and late for a 10th grade book report. Thank god for The Red Badge of Courage

    FAKE NEWS!

    Need some Russian reporters to make sense of this

    Hmmm

    I'm not going to declare that rebel / terrorist have not used chemical weapons. I wonder were they got them from. Spoils of victory? From The Great Interviewer? Good bomber of carpets?

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    Posting from a crappy phone if above posts make no sense.

    SAD!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    Jason P said:

    I Googled ISIS and chemical weapons. Thr 1st thing that came up was an institute that cited rebel / terrorists chem attacks were from local reports, social media, and ISIS propaganda. They stated "ISIS propaganda" as one of their 3 sources.

    I did similar citations when I was stoned and late for a 10th grade book report. Thank god for The Red Badge of Courage

    FAKE NEWS!

    Need some Russian reporters to make sense of this

    Hmmm

    I'm not going to declare that rebel / terrorist have not used chemical weapons. I wonder were they got them from. Spoils of victory? From The Great Interviewer? Good bomber of carpets?

    All the rolling hills, I'll flatten 'em out, yeah
    It's herd behavior, uh huh
    It's evolution, baby


    10th grade is a bitch. Good luck.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Jason P said:

    Posting from a crappy phone if above posts make no sense.

    SAD!

    I blame Obama
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    edited April 2017
    Well, I guess it was a resounding success. $59 million worth of missiles and all we got was suspension of flights from the airbase for 24 or 36 hours. Seems a worthy investment in the administration's overarching Syria policy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/continued-bombing-by-assad-shows-limits-of-single-us-attack/2017/04/08/1c70cb1a-1c83-11e7-bcc2-7d1a0973e7b2_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump710pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.a0cd32fe9304
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:


    Someone please explain to me why the only military in the war room is the person watching the door?

    Funny indeed but that isn't the "war room" as I assume you are aware. That is Mar-a-lago during/after the China meeting. The military people are on video conference from the Pentagon of course. But please...continue.
    So it's been confirmed that this is indeed a meeting about the Syria mission in the so-called Mar-a-lago situation room. I am curious as to what your comment means here. Were you inventing a fact, trying to suggest this isn't the full gang of idiots behind an act of war? Or simply wanted point out that this isn't in the WH war room?
    It's pretty clear what I meant and everything I posted above is 100% correct. No facts invented.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    I think I found one of Polaris's sources that he would like us to read on this topic.

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960119001418

    It's pretty much the Mullah's point of view.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    I'll let this guy referesh it

    https://youtu.be/s3uaf1NFxXc
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Wow! Someone got triggered. Does every solution to every problem end in a bomb being dropped for you?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    You're about as fair as Faux News and even less "balanced."
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    You really think Trump is some sort of brilliant military strategist? Are you kidding me? The article you linked ends by stating that Trump wants to beat Obama. That's what drives him? Seriously? And you act as if Trump's lobbing of 59 missiles has no consequences nor are there opposing reactions to his actions? Iran and Russia are powerless? My god are you naive. And please explain what strategic value Syria has for the US, other than doing Bibi's bidding.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    I'll let this guy referesh it

    https://youtu.be/s3uaf1NFxXc
    Thx. Just so I have this right.
    2013 sarin attack in Syria
    2014 UN agreement, no sarin attacks until
    2017 sarin attack while trump is president

    How is this Obama's fault again?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    You need to rephrase the question.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    You need to rephrase the question.
    How so?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    You need to rephrase the question.
    How so?
    So BS can understand it.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Even our resident professor doesn't know what our Syrian policy is:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/09/middleeast/syria-missile-strike-chemical-attack-aftermath/index.html

    The wind is a blowing and shart he goes.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    I'll let this guy referesh it

    https://youtu.be/s3uaf1NFxXc
    Thx. Just so I have this right.
    2013 sarin attack in Syria
    2014 UN agreement, no sarin attacks until
    2017 sarin attack while trump is president

    How is this Obama's fault again?
    Easy......everything thought of as bad by the conservative right is Obama's fault.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If we are supposed to attack Syria for this attack on their own people who was supposed to attack the US for the attack on Waco?

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    unsung said:

    If we are supposed to attack Syria for this attack on their own people who was supposed to attack the US for the attack on Waco?

    Timothy McVeigh, duh.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786

    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    You need to rephrase the question.
    How so?
    So BS can understand it.
    Got it.....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was black?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    unsung said:

    If we are supposed to attack Syria for this attack on their own people who was supposed to attack the US for the attack on Waco?

    The davidians were stock piling weapons and shot first. Koresh wanted to go.

  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P said:

    I Googled ISIS and chemical weapons. Thr 1st thing that came up was an institute that cited rebel / terrorists chem attacks were from local reports, social media, and ISIS propaganda. They stated "ISIS propaganda" as one of their 3 sources.

    I did similar citations when I was stoned and late for a 10th grade book report. Thank god for The Red Badge of Courage

    FAKE NEWS!

    Need some Russian reporters to make sense of this

    Hmmm

    I'm not going to declare that rebel / terrorist have not used chemical weapons. I wonder were they got them from. Spoils of victory? From The Great Interviewer? Good bomber of carpets?

    All the rolling hills, I'll flatten 'em out, yeah
    It's herd behavior, uh huh
    It's evolution, baby


    they get them from the biggest arms dealers in the world ... the US ... this isn't even tin foil stuff ... you guys gladly talk about what countries you're gonna invade and how you're gonna do it ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    BS44325 said:

    CM189191 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    It looks as if the Obama admin deal on Syrian WMD was a sham all along and that everybody knew it...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-administration-knew-syria-still-had-chemical-weapons-despite-saying-otherwise/article/2007595

    Pathetic

    What is wrong with you, for real? You used to offer balanced right perspective but not so much any more. The NRO clips one part of a speech sans context and you declare fact. What if..

    A. He was referring to a time prior to 2014
    B. A contingency plan they developed in the event the Russians were untruthful
    C. Misquote, whether intentional or not

    Bullshit. The chemical weapons deal was a crock of shit. Obama's policy on Syria was an epic joke and even democrats who were a part of his administration are saying so.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/trump-syria-attack-doctrine-foreign-policy-theory-214999

    The words in that article from Obama's people are damning and I refuse to "balance" my thoughts on what was the most atrocious aspect of his presidency. The fecklessness of hope and change.
    Refresh my memory....How many times did Syria use Sarin gas while Obama was President?
    I'll let this guy referesh it

    https://youtu.be/s3uaf1NFxXc
    this is BS ... it has already been proven Syria did not use chemical weapons in 2013 ... so, how can CNN still post that he survived the Syrian chemical weapons attack in 2013?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-un-mission-report-confirms-that-opposition-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-against-civilians-and-government-forces/5363139
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    polaris_x said:
    How is this article "proof" of anything? It's an attempt at persuasive writing, with a clear opinion. There's no evidence that it's meticulously researched and sourced. It's no different than reading any other article at any other site. The only difference is that you post ones with pro-Russia positions. I don't know how you can say you discovered the "truth" by reading coutnerpunch, global research, sputnik or RT.
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