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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,213
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    Any updates on Nike’s stock?
    Today, Nike stock closed at $83/share, an all time high for the company. https://t.co/9z8DX5jYIL



    So glad I bought more of it last week
    Thanks Nike
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,163
    I would have bought some if I was into that sort of thing, I was very confident this was a good decision.
    It's all about demographics, MAGA types don't wear high-end Nike gear.  They wear hoodies and socks and cheap athletic shorts.  Jordans, Dri-FIT, Pegasus...those are the money brands, and it isn't surprising that the MAGA crowd isn't buying that stuff.

    The hilarious thing is that a typical American MAGA idiot who thought this was a bad move never even considered international sales, which account for a majority of Nike's revenue :lol:

    Not surprising the MAGA crowd forgot about sales abroad lol
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    rgambs said:
    I would have bought some if I was into that sort of thing, I was very confident this was a good decision.
    It's all about demographics, MAGA types don't wear high-end Nike gear.  They wear hoodies and socks and cheap athletic shorts.  Jordans, Dri-FIT, Pegasus...those are the money brands, and it isn't surprising that the MAGA crowd isn't buying that stuff.

    The hilarious thing is that a typical American MAGA idiot who thought this was a bad move never even considered international sales, which account for a majority of Nike's revenue :lol:

    Not surprising the MAGA crowd forgot about sales abroad lol
    They believe everyone thinks like them.. Americans and furners.  
  • dignindignin Posts: 6,306
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    dignin said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
    Bonus, more likely.  Plus, there's no way a campaign like this didn't go all the way up to the board before approval.  It's not like Don Draper met with a mid level guy and made it happen.  
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 11,714
    rgambs said:
    I would have bought some if I was into that sort of thing, I was very confident this was a good decision.
    It's all about demographics, MAGA types don't wear high-end Nike gear.  They wear hoodies and socks and cheap athletic shorts.  Jordans, Dri-FIT, Pegasus...those are the money brands, and it isn't surprising that the MAGA crowd isn't buying that stuff.

    The hilarious thing is that a typical American MAGA idiot who thought this was a bad move never even considered international sales, which account for a majority of Nike's revenue :lol:

    Not surprising the MAGA crowd forgot about sales abroad lol
    Exactly.  Most of the world is anti-Trump.
  • rgambs said:
    I would have bought some if I was into that sort of thing, I was very confident this was a good decision.
    It's all about demographics, MAGA types don't wear high-end Nike gear.  They wear hoodies and socks and cheap athletic shorts.  Jordans, Dri-FIT, Pegasus...those are the money brands, and it isn't surprising that the MAGA crowd isn't buying that stuff.

    The hilarious thing is that a typical American MAGA idiot who thought this was a bad move never even considered international sales, which account for a majority of Nike's revenue :lol:

    Not surprising the MAGA crowd forgot about sales abroad lol
    Exactly.  Most of the world is anti-Trump.
    Most of the world is oppressed and would love to be able to openly express themselves without retribution.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,306
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
    It's not like Don Draper met with a mid level guy and made it happen.  
    I think that's exactly what happened.

    mad men wink GIF


  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
    It's not like Don Draper met with a mid level guy and made it happen.  
    I think that's exactly what happened.

    mad men wink GIF


    somewhere in NY, during the 60's, there was a guy just like Don (maybe without the desertion)... what a life.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,552
    edited September 13
    my2hands said:
    brianlux said:
    There are many that that have happened throughout our history that don't come out until much later (if at all).  This book is full of them and I highly recommend it. (The NY Times made an open invitation for any historian to come forward with proof of anything in this book as being false.  To my knowledge, no one had been able to do that.)


    I'm going to pick this up!

    Excellent! 

    To me, reading it was a lot like reading the South Pacific/Asian version of Dee Brown's Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.  The raw truth about parts of US history that have been conveniently ignored.

    Will look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,132
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    KC138045 said:
    my2hands said:
    I actually dont have a problem with it... challenging the status quo causes a conversation, which is a healthy thing in my opinion 

    Serious question: nobody has questions about the Pentagon and 9/11? No curiosity? No intrigue? No need to challenge the official narrative? No video? The damage site and lack of debris? 19 assholes with boxcutters supposedly turn the world upside down and nobody is supposed to question it?

    No tin foil hat here, just wondering? 
    There is a video from a surveillance camera outside the Pentagon.  I saw it on one the 9-11 documentaries I watched last night.
    I've seen it, you could see a plane on that? I couldnt make anything out. That video is actually part of my problem, that's the best they've got? Washington DC, one of the more important and secure buildings in the world, and we dont have any video of this better than that?
    just when I see you speak of imaginary border lines you go and say this...and completely redeem yourself!
    I call it how I see it brother
    Careful, someone here may call you a conspiracy theorist.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    KC138045 said:
    my2hands said:
    I actually dont have a problem with it... challenging the status quo causes a conversation, which is a healthy thing in my opinion 

    Serious question: nobody has questions about the Pentagon and 9/11? No curiosity? No intrigue? No need to challenge the official narrative? No video? The damage site and lack of debris? 19 assholes with boxcutters supposedly turn the world upside down and nobody is supposed to question it?

    No tin foil hat here, just wondering? 
    There is a video from a surveillance camera outside the Pentagon.  I saw it on one the 9-11 documentaries I watched last night.
    I've seen it, you could see a plane on that? I couldnt make anything out. That video is actually part of my problem, that's the best they've got? Washington DC, one of the more important and secure buildings in the world, and we dont have any video of this better than that?
    just when I see you speak of imaginary border lines you go and say this...and completely redeem yourself!
    I call it how I see it brother
    Careful, someone here may call you a conspiracy theorist.
    By definition, that is one.  
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 8,718
    unsung said:

    if it wasn't a plane where did that flight go and where did we kill all the passengers on board? 
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 8,718
    dignin said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
    i wouldn't put it past them. maybe some kid making .07 per hour with no bathroom breaks got fired
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,262
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    Nike stock drops have cost them $3 billion loss this morning.  I was low in my estimate.  

    Politics aside, doesn’t the whole ad agency at Nike that went forward with this campaign get shit canned immediately?   
    someone has to for sure.   
    So did anyone get fired?
    It's not like Don Draper met with a mid level guy and made it happen.  
    I think that's exactly what happened.

    mad men wink GIF


    somewhere in NY, during the 60's, there was a guy just like Don (maybe without the desertion)... what a life.  
    My mom has carried on a weird long distance, non-sexual love affair with a man for 50 years, and he was an advertising exec in the 60s (and beyond). She says Mad Men is super realistic, lol.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,274
    Also who stands up for the oppressed factory worker making this garbage...
  • Also who stands up for the oppressed factory worker making this garbage...
    College kids and consumer activists. They’ve actually driven quite a bit of reform in the overseas apparel and light manufacturing sectors. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,262
    Also who stands up for the oppressed factory worker making this garbage...
    College kids and consumer activists. They’ve actually driven quite a bit of reform in the overseas apparel and light manufacturing sectors. 
    There are also activists in the countries where it's an issue - people are trying to fight for workers' rights in those places. Time will tell if their efforts pay off more than they already have.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,116
    I can't imagine how much nikes would cost if people were paid decent wages to make them. or the companies would just have to adjust profit margins to reflect their new expenses, since no one would pay $1000 for a pair of sneakers. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,274
    So using oppressed labour is ok as long as everyone has affordable poor quality consumer goods?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    This is why the Trans Pacific Partnership was so important.  It wasn't just about "free trade", that was a minor part.  Labor standards were a really big part of it.  But we walked away.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,116
    So using oppressed labour is ok as long as everyone has affordable poor quality consumer goods?
    that's what you got from my comment?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,262
    edited September 13
    I can't imagine how much nikes would cost if people were paid decent wages to make them. or the companies would just have to adjust profit margins to reflect their new expenses, since no one would pay $1000 for a pair of sneakers. 
    That's what we need for our society to survive long term IMO, just in general. The ridiculously massive profit margins are the cause of the ever-growing chasm between the rich and the rest of us.

    As for the comments about Nike quality... I have never bought anything low quality from Nike. I've got 10 year old runners that are still in good shape, and a 12 year old track jacket that is in great condition too. I think the quality is good. Not sure what products people are buying that are crappy, but I've never bought them... Has the quality of Nike only recently dropped off or what?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • So using oppressed labour is ok as long as everyone has affordable poor quality consumer goods?
    Who said it was okay?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,992
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    KC138045 said:
    my2hands said:
    I actually dont have a problem with it... challenging the status quo causes a conversation, which is a healthy thing in my opinion 

    Serious question: nobody has questions about the Pentagon and 9/11? No curiosity? No intrigue? No need to challenge the official narrative? No video? The damage site and lack of debris? 19 assholes with boxcutters supposedly turn the world upside down and nobody is supposed to question it?

    No tin foil hat here, just wondering? 
    There is a video from a surveillance camera outside the Pentagon.  I saw it on one the 9-11 documentaries I watched last night.
    I've seen it, you could see a plane on that? I couldnt make anything out. That video is actually part of my problem, that's the best they've got? Washington DC, one of the more important and secure buildings in the world, and we dont have any video of this better than that?
    just when I see you speak of imaginary border lines you go and say this...and completely redeem yourself!
    I call it how I see it brother
    Careful, someone here may call you a conspiracy theorist.
    Dont give a shit what people call me or think about me. 

    Take me or leave me, I don't care
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,355
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    KC138045 said:
    my2hands said:
    I actually dont have a problem with it... challenging the status quo causes a conversation, which is a healthy thing in my opinion 

    Serious question: nobody has questions about the Pentagon and 9/11? No curiosity? No intrigue? No need to challenge the official narrative? No video? The damage site and lack of debris? 19 assholes with boxcutters supposedly turn the world upside down and nobody is supposed to question it?

    No tin foil hat here, just wondering? 
    There is a video from a surveillance camera outside the Pentagon.  I saw it on one the 9-11 documentaries I watched last night.
    I've seen it, you could see a plane on that? I couldnt make anything out. That video is actually part of my problem, that's the best they've got? Washington DC, one of the more important and secure buildings in the world, and we dont have any video of this better than that?
    just when I see you speak of imaginary border lines you go and say this...and completely redeem yourself!
    I call it how I see it brother
    Careful, someone here may call you a conspiracy theorist.
    Dont give a shit what people call me or think about me. 

    Take me or leave me, I don't care
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,992
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    my2hands said:
    KC138045 said:
    my2hands said:
    I actually dont have a problem with it... challenging the status quo causes a conversation, which is a healthy thing in my opinion 

    Serious question: nobody has questions about the Pentagon and 9/11? No curiosity? No intrigue? No need to challenge the official narrative? No video? The damage site and lack of debris? 19 assholes with boxcutters supposedly turn the world upside down and nobody is supposed to question it?

    No tin foil hat here, just wondering? 
    There is a video from a surveillance camera outside the Pentagon.  I saw it on one the 9-11 documentaries I watched last night.
    I've seen it, you could see a plane on that? I couldnt make anything out. That video is actually part of my problem, that's the best they've got? Washington DC, one of the more important and secure buildings in the world, and we dont have any video of this better than that?
    just when I see you speak of imaginary border lines you go and say this...and completely redeem yourself!
    I call it how I see it brother
    Careful, someone here may call you a conspiracy theorist.
    Dont give a shit what people call me or think about me. 

    Take me or leave me, I don't care
    Is that a song from Lady Gaga?
    P-p-p-p-poker face lol

    I was born this way... 
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