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Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
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MSG 1 has been the toughest PJ ticket for me in a long time.
Even my connections have nothing.
Looks like its off to stubhub for a ticket. Luckily the prices are not too insane.
Good luck everyone.
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    goosefuzzgoosefuzz Posts: 40
    I missed the boat with tickets. Had no idea I'd be in NYC by the time the show had sold out. Lucrative game for these resellers.

    Too bad the band aren't as progressive against this sort of stuff as they used to be.
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    andrew68andrew68 Toronto Posts: 1,791
    fompsweeva said:

    I missed the boat with tickets. Had no idea I'd be in NYC by the time the show had sold out. Lucrative game for these resellers.

    Too bad the band aren't as progressive against this sort of stuff as they used to be.


    what more do you think they could do?

    keep in mind they could pull a Bruce et al and charge $200+ a ticket....the 2nd market sales will always win out
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    It is what it is. I am sure the band does what it can.
    It is ticketmaster. They dont sell face value tickets to the public anymore.
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    opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,091
    Don't bother with craigslist. All scams
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    goosefuzzgoosefuzz Posts: 40
    andrew68 said:

    fompsweeva said:

    I missed the boat with tickets. Had no idea I'd be in NYC by the time the show had sold out. Lucrative game for these resellers.

    Too bad the band aren't as progressive against this sort of stuff as they used to be.


    what more do you think they could do?

    keep in mind they could pull a Bruce et al and charge $200+ a ticket....the 2nd market sales will always win out
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    opsopcopolis said:

    Don't bother with craigslist. All scams

    Definitely agree. And don't buy on the street at MSG. All scams.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    Bit the bullet yesterday on Stubhub. Prices are crazy today!!! I would be checking TM all day today for a last minute drop.
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    GM151575GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 346
    edited May 2016
    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.
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    Mike's SideMike's Side Posts: 954
    MSG is its own type of evil. I stub hubbed it the minute I missed out on the public sale
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    H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,596
    Fuck the scalpers!
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    NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 761
    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    6/3/06 (East Rutherford 2)
    6/24/08 (MSG1)
    6/25/08 (MSG2)
    7/1/08 (Beacon Theater -NYC)
    10/30/09 (Philly3)
    5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
    5/20/10 (MSG1)
    5/21/10 (MSG2)
    10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
    10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
    5/1/16 (MSG 1)
    5/2/16 (MSG 2)
    3/30/20 (MSG)
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    GM151575GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 346
    edited May 2016
    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    He made like 60 bucks on the ticket. Could be worse.
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    NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 761
    edited May 2016
    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    He made like 60 bucks on the ticket. Could be worse.
    No - he made closer to $400. This was 2009 and tickets for that run were around $100 or so, if that. Highest face price for ABB at the Beacon was for the last shows in 2014 ($250).
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    5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
    5/20/10 (MSG1)
    5/21/10 (MSG2)
    10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
    10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
    5/1/16 (MSG 1)
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    deweildeweil Posts: 245
    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    185 total or per ticket? Because if it's per ticket, it's not a good deed at all. Just scalping straight up. I don't mind if you do it, just call it what it is.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    It is what it is. I found a good seat for $260, which is about what it costs to see a shitty broadway play or have dinner at a fancy restaurant in NYC. Well worth it for 3 hours of live pearl jam!
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    GM151575GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 346
    edited May 2016
    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    185 total or per ticket? Because if it's per ticket, it's not a good deed at all. Just scalping straight up. I don't mind if you do it, just call it what it is.
    What's this an audit. He sold his one extra for 185.
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    GM151575GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 346
    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    He made like 60 bucks on the ticket. Could be worse.
    No - he made closer to $400. This was 2009 and tickets for that run were around $100 or so, if that. Highest face price for ABB at the Beacon was for the last shows in 2014 ($250).
    My uncle made 60 on his tickets is what I'm saying.
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    deweildeweil Posts: 245
    GM151575 said:

    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    185 total or per ticket? Because if it's per ticket, it's not a good deed at all. Just scalping straight up. I don't mind if you do it, just call it what it is.
    What's this an audit. He sold his one extra for 185.
    Not an audit. At all. I dont judge or care what your uncle does. I was simply pointing out that what he did was sell the ticket for a profit. That's no different than the scalper you called a savage. His profit was smaller, perhaps, although 185 to 260, minus fees if applicable, isn't really much profit either. This forum is full of people with tickets who sell them to fans for face value because those are the rules and for some because they believe that's the right thing to do. Im not here to say what's right but only that your uncle's deed was no better or worse than that savage, in my opinion. Now, had he sold it for face and then the person flipped it, id understand your post a bit more.

    Happy Sunday to everyone!
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    NYCPJNYCPJ nyc Posts: 761
    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    He made like 60 bucks on the ticket. Could be worse.
    No - he made closer to $400. This was 2009 and tickets for that run were around $100 or so, if that. Highest face price for ABB at the Beacon was for the last shows in 2014 ($250).
    My uncle made 60 on his tickets is what I'm saying.
    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    NYCPJ said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    I learned my lesson when a few years back, i had an extra ticket to see the Allman Brothers at the Beacon on a night when Clapton was sitting in (everyone knew it in advance). I sold my extra at the show to someone who looked like a fan (face price). The guy who showed up to sit next to me bought it outside for $500 from the "fan"

    He made like 60 bucks on the ticket. Could be worse.
    No - he made closer to $400. This was 2009 and tickets for that run were around $100 or so, if that. Highest face price for ABB at the Beacon was for the last shows in 2014 ($250).
    My uncle made 60 on his tickets is what I'm saying.
    Got it. Sorry.

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    6/24/08 (MSG1)
    6/25/08 (MSG2)
    7/1/08 (Beacon Theater -NYC)
    10/30/09 (Philly3)
    5/18/10 (Newark, NJ)
    5/20/10 (MSG1)
    5/21/10 (MSG2)
    10/18/13 (Brooklyn 1)
    10/19/13 (Brooklyn 2)
    5/1/16 (MSG 1)
    5/2/16 (MSG 2)
    3/30/20 (MSG)
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    GM151575GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 346
    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    185 total or per ticket? Because if it's per ticket, it's not a good deed at all. Just scalping straight up. I don't mind if you do it, just call it what it is.
    What's this an audit. He sold his one extra for 185.
    Not an audit. At all. I dont judge or care what your uncle does. I was simply pointing out that what he did was sell the ticket for a profit. That's no different than the scalper you called a savage. His profit was smaller, perhaps, although 185 to 260, minus fees if applicable, isn't really much profit either. This forum is full of people with tickets who sell them to fans for face value because those are the rules and for some because they believe that's the right thing to do. Im not here to say what's right but only that your uncle's deed was no better or worse than that savage, in my opinion. Now, had he sold it for face and then the person flipped it, id understand your post a bit more.

    Happy Sunday to everyone!
    Sold it with the intent of getting it to a real fan for $100 less than the going rate. Somebody buying it just to sell it is different. Yes he made some money and that's scalping but thems the breaks. I'm selling him the one with me for face if that makes you feel warm and cozy.
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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,176
    Scalpers definitely won. I wonder how many empty seats there will be.

    Can't PJ sell to non-brokers only? Or is that not really feasible.
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    LiftedLifted Posts: 1,643
    GM151575 said:

    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    deweil said:

    GM151575 said:

    My uncle had shit tickets I had an extra of my good pair, so he sold his on stub hub at 185 just go get rid of it last night. Sold in ten seconds. Then ten seconds after that was on there for resale at 270. Savages. Try to do a good (kind of) deed.

    185 total or per ticket? Because if it's per ticket, it's not a good deed at all. Just scalping straight up. I don't mind if you do it, just call it what it is.
    What's this an audit. He sold his one extra for 185.
    Not an audit. At all. I dont judge or care what your uncle does. I was simply pointing out that what he did was sell the ticket for a profit. That's no different than the scalper you called a savage. His profit was smaller, perhaps, although 185 to 260, minus fees if applicable, isn't really much profit either. This forum is full of people with tickets who sell them to fans for face value because those are the rules and for some because they believe that's the right thing to do. Im not here to say what's right but only that your uncle's deed was no better or worse than that savage, in my opinion. Now, had he sold it for face and then the person flipped it, id understand your post a bit more.

    Happy Sunday to everyone!
    Sold it with the intent of getting it to a real fan for $100 less than the going rate. Somebody buying it just to sell it is different. Yes he made some money and that's scalping but thems the breaks. I'm selling him the one with me for face if that makes you feel warm and cozy.
    Yeah...i don't care what you guys did, but the person being critical is exactly right. No one would care if you weren't patting yourself on the back for a 'good deed', but you did. And it's not a good deed. Selling a ticket for $100+ over face value on stubhub because it's less than the so called 'going rate' is hardly a good deed. It's scalping, whether that was intended when purchased or not. And you're sticking to the story that you were trying to get it to a fan? Im sorry, but Im calling bullshit! There's hundreds of fans on the board that wouldve loved to buy that ticket. Or you could've sold it to one of the hundreds of fans at the venue who will be getting stuck outside tonight considering you will be there anyway. Your uncle? just wanted to make a few bucks, and that's fine, but don't act like a good deed was being attempted, cause you all are bitter cause you could've squeezed more $ out of the ticket. This just annoys me cause I almost got stuck outside in philly friday cause of all the people doing 'good deeds' which made tickets extremely expensive and hard to acquire. Luckily it worked out for me and i got one for $100 at the last minute, but others were not so lucky.

    End of rant, carry on...
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    ccarey23ccarey23 Posts: 11
    I have 2 fan club tix sitting at the box office that I am not going to be able use! Kids are sick. I would love to sell them at face to one of you guys. Need my license right?
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,429
    ccarey23 said:

    I have 2 fan club tix sitting at the box office that I am not going to be able use! Kids are sick. I would love to sell them at face to one of you guys. Need my license right?

    10C won't allow it.

    Unfortunately
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,631
    After reading all the posts on FB of counterfit tickets and seeing how much the StubHub prices jumped today, yes, I agree, MSG is a place where the scalpers won today, and will probably always win.
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    RE4790RE4790 Posts: 795
    Wasn't there a thread telling people to wait until the last second to buy in the secondary market because there are always drops and prices always go down ? Hopefully everyone ignored that advice.
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    mrpink90mrpink90 Posts: 415
    RE4790 said:

    Wasn't there a thread telling people to wait until the last second to buy in the secondary market because there are always drops and prices always go down ? Hopefully everyone ignored that advice.


    that doesnt work for msg shows. bruce, u2,pj, billy joel, etc. sold out shows at msg the prices never drop on stubhub
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,631
    VIA Facebook. How in the world is someone supposed to tell that those are counterfeit. Damn, do those look real. Its usually fairly obvious, but wow.

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    ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    If they were being sold on Craigslist, 99% chance they're fake. A guy on Facebook posted a video to put a lit cigarette against the back and see the little black dot come through the front of the ticket, that's how to tell they are real. Apparently they're printed with a heart sensitive thing so the back doesn't get burned when you hold a cigarette close to it. I don't think you will ever find a scalper that would let you put a cigarette to the ticket though.
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    RE4790RE4790 Posts: 795
    TM tickets have UV sensitive ink on them which is slightly more difficult to fake. A mini black light from like HotTopic will show it.
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