North Carolina passes bill blocking LGBT protections

PJfanwillneverleave1

rgambs said:

I saw some memes going around that said more republican senators have been arrested for sexual misconduct in public bathrooms than LGBT people have. Pretty funny, but not likely very true.

So....

PJfanwillneverleave1

Go Beavers

Godfather. said:

to not approve of or disagree or even dislike anything does not mean fear, hate or ignorance and because someone is trying stop gay rights in their area is no different than the people who try and remove all signs of God from money, federal and state buildings but we close our eyes to the fact that doing either of these things we hurt people, so many on here are perfectly fine with removing my wishes or opinion as Christian, but tell the LGBT people that you wont bake them a cake or marry them and the same people blow a gasket and describe you as afraid, bigoted, hateful or ignorant
so really tell me who's right or wrong ?

Godfather.

This is quite the scramble post, but since you referenced the case in Oregon, I'll chime in. Regarding the bakers refusing to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding, that originates from the fact that sexual orientation is a protected class in Oregon. That means if you are a business open to the public, you can't refuse service to one of the protected groups based on their group status. It would be that same if they refused to bake cakes for a interracial wedding. It doesn't matter where their beliefs come from, whether it's religion or what they grandma told them. It's completely from a place of ignorance, and just because someone misinterprets the Bible doesn't mean they have some leg to stand on for "religious freedom". Churches and private schools are still allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation because they are private. So a pastor will not be forced to do gay weddings, despite what you may have read on your kooky web pages.

And removing references to God related to government entities is about separation of church and state, which everyone of any religion, or even if you're not religious, should support. It allow for a person's religion to exist freely.

InHiding80

There's that big government that republicans hate so much!

InHiding80

JimmyV said:

Also...how is this not big government? Regulating business is wrong but regulating people's lives is A-OK?

Do as they say, not as they do.

InHiding80

rgambs said:

This is why you suck it up and vote for Hilary.

Conservative principles and policies are hurtful BY DESIGN.

Yes, vote for someone who flip flopped on the issue to appeal to her base instead of Bernie.

InHiding80

Stopped reading at liberal logic, pjfan. I don't speak Walmart.

Con logic: Bash big government and preach love for constitution unless it goes against your anti gay marriage views. Treat it like a cafeteria and pick or leave stuff. Derp!

PJfanwillneverleave1

InHiding80 said:

rgambs said:

This is why you suck it up and vote for Hilary.

Conservative principles and policies are hurtful BY DESIGN.

Yes, vote for someone who flip flopped on the issue to appeal to her base instead of Bernie.

What terrible political advice. Such a sad state that you guys are in that you have to request that someone suck it up and vote for this person. Kind of sounds like playing with the voters I can see why Hilary supporters think this way.
Suck it up and vote for Hilary - priceless.

rgambs

InHiding80 said:

rgambs said:

This is why you suck it up and vote for Hilary.

Conservative principles and policies are hurtful BY DESIGN.

Yes, vote for someone who flip flopped on the issue to appeal to her base instead of Bernie.

I voted for Bernie once already, if he gets the nomination I will be thrilled to vote for him again, but I won't throw my vote in the trash and write him in, leaving the LGBT and many other communities hung out to dry. I will vote for the only candidate that has a real chance of protecting the hard fought gains of the last few decades.

TL170678

I think businesses should have the right to refuse service, and if they are dumb enough to refuse based on color, religious (aka cult) beliefs or sexual preference, then the consumers can speak louder by not giving them money.

gimmesometruth27

rgambs said:

InHiding80 said:

rgambs said:

This is why you suck it up and vote for Hilary.

Conservative principles and policies are hurtful BY DESIGN.

Yes, vote for someone who flip flopped on the issue to appeal to her base instead of Bernie.

I voted for Bernie once already, if he gets the nomination I will be thrilled to vote for him again, but I won't throw my vote in the trash and write him in, leaving the LGBT and many other communities hung out to dry. I will vote for the only candidate that has a real chance of protecting the hard fought gains of the last few decades.

i agree. i voted sanders. even if he loses hillary will protect the rights of all people. she will appoint a liberal justice to the supreme court and in a few years this law will be ruled unconstitutional and will be struck down.

lolobugg

ACLU responds

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aclu-sues-controversial-north-carolina-transgender-bathroom-law/story?id=37976188

dignin

North Carolina's "bathroom bill" just cost the state 400 future jobs.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/05/technology/paypal-north-carolina-lgbt/index.html

polaris_x

Mississippi governor signed ...

more hate ... more discrimination ... welcome to the US where freedom and liberty is supposedly the cornerstone for their war in foreign lands ...

polaris_x

paypal ...

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/05/technology/paypal-north-carolina-lgbt/index.html

Bentleyspop

For the few people on AMT that actually go to PJ shows and are going to the show in Raleigh......if at all possible please don't spend any money in north carolina. If you are going to spend money do it at a LGBTQ friendly business.
Thanks

Who Princess

I feel like Jesse Helms is alive and well.

lolobugg

I will be going to the Raleigh show and since I live in NC, it is impossible for me not to spend $ here, but I plan on taking an Anti-McCrory sign to the show and see if Ed has any opinions on this law. It's gonna be early retirement party for our Governor.

cincybearcat

TL170678 said:

I think businesses should have the right to refuse service, and if they are dumb enough to refuse based on color, religious (aka cult) beliefs or sexual preference, then the consumers can speak louder by not giving them money.

I somewhat agree, but then again, these businesses often have some support of government.....they need permits, etc. And if their business is going to violate human rights of individuals, is the government required to do business with them? I don't think so.

callen

cincybearcat said:

TL170678 said:

I think businesses should have the right to refuse service, and if they are dumb enough to refuse based on color, religious (aka cult) beliefs or sexual preference, then the consumers can speak louder by not giving them money.

I somewhat agree, but then again, these businesses often have some support of government.....they need permits, etc. And if their business is going to violate human rights of individuals, is the government required to do business with them? I don't think so.

And what if a town only has one baker or Dr? Sometimes there's no competition. What if all business owners git together to get rid of x type of people. Segregation could easily happen.

But it boils down to ignorance and discrimination so serve public?, serve all the public.

rgambs

Bentleyspop said:

For the few people on AMT that actually go to PJ shows and are going to the show in Raleigh......if at all possible please don't spend any money in north carolina. If you are going to spend money do it at a LGBTQ friendly business.
Thanks

I will be all over the mountains around Asheville, but I won't feel bad spending money there, as it is a vibrant progressive community that is practically an oasis of sense in a sea of confederate flag waving bible thumpers.

cincybearcat

rgambs said:

Bentleyspop said:

For the few people on AMT that actually go to PJ shows and are going to the show in Raleigh......if at all possible please don't spend any money in north carolina. If you are going to spend money do it at a LGBTQ friendly business.
Thanks

I will be all over the mountains around Asheville, but I won't feel bad spending money there, as it is a vibrant progressive community that is practically an oasis of sense in a sea of confederate flag waving bible thumpers.

Not to mention, if you are in Asheville and don't buy wicked weed, burial, Greenman etc beers than you are just a moron!!!

lolobugg

rgambs said:

Bentleyspop said:

For the few people on AMT that actually go to PJ shows and are going to the show in Raleigh......if at all possible please don't spend any money in north carolina. If you are going to spend money do it at a LGBTQ friendly business.
Thanks

I will be all over the mountains around Asheville, but I won't feel bad spending money there, as it is a vibrant progressive community that is practically an oasis of sense in a sea of confederate flag waving bible thumpers.

Thanks, man.
We appreciate it. The community activists here is going door to door at local business and will be compiling a list of LGBT friendly businesses. So hopefully folks will have something to reference when they visit. We are already seeing boycotts of businesses that supported this law. EVERYONE is welcome here despite what the bums in the State House are saying with this BS law.

HollisBrown

Bruce just canceled his show for this Sunday in Charlotte. Good for him. Now PJ has to step up to the plate, too.

lolobugg

HollisBrown said:

Bruce just canceled his show for this Sunday in Charlotte. Good for him. Now PJ has to step up to the plate, too.

If they are gonna do it. do it today. Bruce used really bad timing on this.
i don't have tix for the Bruce show but just think this could've been done weeks ago.

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

I saw some memes going around that said more republican senators have been arrested for sexual misconduct in public bathrooms than LGBT people have. Pretty funny, but not likely very true.

That's funny, and not hard to believe, true or not, lol.

Jason P

Good for Bruce. Punish those bigot Springsteen fans! That will teach those liberals!

Jason P

Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

Who Princess

Jason P said:

Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

It will punish local businesses that count on the revenue from visitors and fans--hotels, restaurants, gas stations, cabs. That's the only immediate impact I see. Along with the state being a national laughingstock. I don't like it though, canceling at the last minute hurts the fans. If I were traveling to the show I'd be pissed.

Free

HollisBrown said:

Bruce just canceled his show for this Sunday in Charlotte. Good for him. Now PJ has to step up to the plate, too.

Good on Bruce!!