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Did Ed sound better in 2014 than 2013??

mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
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Could just be me, but I feel like Ed sounded way better on the 2014 leg than the 2013 leg? I could just be crazy. Gimme your opinions.
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    edited November 2015
    I would have to agree - but maybe arenas have better acoustics than baseball stadiums?
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    buck502000 said:

    I would have to agree - but maybe arenas have better acoustics than baseball stadiums?

    They only played one baseball stadium? Wrigley? And I was just listening to the 2013 boots and comparing them to the 2014 boots and Ed just sounded better in my opinion.
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    MSG 2016 1&2
    Wrigley 2016 1&2
    Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
    Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
    London 2018 1
    Wrigley 2018 1&2
    St. Louis 2020
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    ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,964
    sounds even better this tour
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,844
    I can't notice a difference
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    I think the LB songs sounded much better on the 14' tour for obvious reasons.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Who can forget that blunder of LB at Wrigley.
    Complete verse omitted.
    On the debut!
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Who can forget that blunder of LB at Wrigley.
    Complete verse omitted.
    On the debut!
    Doh!
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Dang, now I want to break em' all out again and listen.
    www.cluthelee.com
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Dang, now I want to break em' all out again and listen.
    Do it!!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    ehbacon said:

    sounds even better this tour

    Actually though, Ed's been sounding unreal this tour! Just getting better with age.
    Milwaukee 2014
    MSG 2016 1&2
    Wrigley 2016 1&2
    Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
    Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
    London 2018 1
    Wrigley 2018 1&2
    St. Louis 2020
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Me too, I love the 14' boots.
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    MSG 2016 1&2
    Wrigley 2016 1&2
    Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
    Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
    London 2018 1
    Wrigley 2018 1&2
    St. Louis 2020
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,631
    I don't notice a difference between 13 and 14.... But I notice a huge difference between 12 and 13/14. Sounded much, much better the past 2 years. Some of those 2012 boots are rough.
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    Weston1283 said:

    I don't notice a difference between 13 and 14.... But I notice a huge difference between 12 and 13/14. Sounded much, much better the past 2 years. Some of those 2012 boots are rough.

    Yeah, 12' had some sick shows, bud I'd agree.
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    MSG 2016 1&2
    Wrigley 2016 1&2
    Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
    Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
    London 2018 1
    Wrigley 2018 1&2
    St. Louis 2020
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    evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,848
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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    evenflow82 said:

    He is still a human chimney, isn't he?

    Hahaha I believe so, you'd have to imagine that not helping his voice
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    MSG 2016 1&2
    Wrigley 2016 1&2
    Eddie Vedder Obama Farewell Address 2017
    Eddie Vedder Louisville, KY 2017
    London 2018 1
    Wrigley 2018 1&2
    St. Louis 2020
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    TL170678TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    I read an interview last year, he said he quit smoking..ciggs at least. I think I saw him with a vape cig. Pittsburg 2013 his voice was better than Cincy 2014 I believe.
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    lbpeltzlbpeltz Posts: 98
    Ed at least went through a stretch where he kicked the smokes. Every show in 2012 he would lite one up during mikes porch solo. That was absent in the 2013 and 14 shows. I might have read that somewhere too.

    Also, it's been speculated on here multiple occasions that ed had some vocal cord help. I have to think so. Those philly 09 boots are not a great version of Ed and there are many more in the 09-11 era like that.
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    mikerlmikerl Posts: 580
    Cigs are a huge factor, but I also think that if the band is going to play three hour shows, Ed has gotten to a point where there needs to be a night or two between shows. Back to back three hour nights it a nightmare for him, I would assume.

    People love the three hour shows, myself included. But I bet his voice would hold on better if they went back to the 1:45-2:15 sets like in 96-2000.

    It's interesting, I love it when pj plays as long as they can, but with other Artists I am "all set" after the two hour mark. Foo's are a great example... Great show, but it gets to feel pretty redundant after so long.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,844
    mikerl said:

    Cigs are a huge factor, but I also think that if the band is going to play three hour shows, Ed has gotten to a point where there needs to be a night or two between shows. Back to back three hour nights it a nightmare for him, I would assume.

    People love the three hour shows, myself included. But I bet his voice would hold on better if they went back to the 1:45-2:15 sets like in 96-2000.

    It's interesting, I love it when pj plays as long as they can, but with other Artists I am "all set" after the two hour mark. Foo's are a great example... Great show, but it gets to feel pretty redundant after so long.

    I've always thought the same. For many bands I want to get back home and into bed past 11 haha.
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    sparky_frysparky_fry Posts: 760
    My better half is a speech pathologist and she said that it sounds like Ed is taking better care of his voice recently. He has to if he wants his career to last.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    sparky_fry said:

    My better half is a speech pathologist and she said that it sounds like Ed is taking better care of his voice recently. He has to if he wants his career to last.

    Truth. And maybe stop drinking so much damn alcohol on stage. That dries the shit out of your throat and numbs it a bit.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,986
    These things are hard to tell, good Ed could be bad Ed for someone else. Me thinks.

    But I feel of the top of my head these years were lowpoints for him; 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013.

    But only heard a selection of shows.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534
    edited November 2015
    Weston1283 said:

    I don't notice a difference between 13 and 14.... But I notice a huge difference between 12 and 13/14. Sounded much, much better the past 2 years. Some of those 2012 boots are rough.

    That's what I notice too. I feel like there was a sudden improvement in the middle of 2012. When he came back for Missoula he suddenly sounded way better, to the point where I wondered if he'd had some kind of restorative medical treatment.
    I don't feel like Eddie's voice was bad in 2013 for any reason other than insanely long shows for that tour, coupled with barely knowing how to sing anything from LB. Some of those LB songs in 2013 were absolute train wrecks, but not because his vocal chords couldn't handle it. He just couldn't find the right key! Although by the end of that tour, on the West Coast, his voice was going because the long long shows were taking their toll. Smoking or no smoking (not that it helps), those marathon shows would batter anyone's voice. That's why so few artists do it. Most singers could never do those kinds of 3+ hour shows, and wouldn't even try. I appreciate the effort from the band, but I think everyone might benefit in the long run if they kept the shows to under 2.5 hours (which is still a super long show), and always tried to have as much time between shows as possible.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    PJ_Soul said:

    Weston1283 said:

    I don't notice a difference between 13 and 14.... But I notice a huge difference between 12 and 13/14. Sounded much, much better the past 2 years. Some of those 2012 boots are rough.

    That's what I notice too. I feel like there was a sudden improvement in the middle of 2012. When he came back for Missoula he suddenly sounded way better, to the point where I wondered if he'd had some kind of restorative medical treatment.
    I don't feel like Eddie's voice was bad in 2013 for any reason other than insanely long shows for that tour, coupled with barely knowing how to sing anything from LB. Some of those LB songs in 2013 were absolute train wrecks, but not because his vocal chords couldn't handle it. He just couldn't find the right key! Although by the end of that tour, on the West Coast, his voice was going because the long long shows were taking their toll. Smoking or no smoking (not that it helps), those marathon shows would batter anyone's voice. That's why so few artists do it. Most singers could never do those kinds of 3+ hour shows, and wouldn't even try. I appreciate the effort from the band, but I think everyone might benefit in the long run if they kept the shows to under 2.5 hours (which is still a super long show), and always tried to have as much time between shows as possible.
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    evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,848
    edited November 2015
    I remember listening to the 2012 shows and cringing at his squeakiness and voice cracks. They're still there, but not as much.

    Nothing will ever top ed's vocals from 1992-1994. Some of those 94 shows have fantastic performances all around (you are missed, Dave A).
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,986
    evenflow82 said:

    I remember listening to the 2012 shows and cringing at his squeakiness and voice cracks. They're still there, but not as much.

    Nothing will ever top ed's vocals from 1992-1994. Some of those 94 shows have fantastic performances all around (you are missed, Dave A).

    I thought Stockholm 2012 was a lot better than shows previous years.

    2005/2006 he sounds great. Same with 2003.
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    tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,956
    Manchester 1 2012 Eddie sounded really great too (the best I've heard him from the shows I've been to).
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    rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,124
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    i go to the 14 boots way more than the 13 boots. the band and ed sound more polished.

    Who can forget that blunder of LB at Wrigley.
    Complete verse omitted.
    On the debut!
    oh god, no!
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    sparky_frysparky_fry Posts: 760
    You can notice that he's also starting off the shows with more slower/easier songs to sing (pendulum, nothingman, EWBTC, release ETC) to warm up his voice. The days of starting off with Go are over.
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