What stone or Jeff song do you think Ed could do solo live?
What I mean is that are many songs that Ed would have the musical ability to play guitar on and sing to (Release, Nothingman, Ledbetter, too many to list...) Those are very easy to play and sing from a musicians stand point, but because he did not write the music to those he would not play those in his solo shows. There is just less material to choose from. I'm not saying it should be a PJ show with Ed sitting on a stool. He just sticks to the PJ material that he wrote the music to which is a much smaller proportional amount of material.
yeah but how many of them would sound good on one acoustic guitar? or it could just be a respect thing to his fellow band members, he will only play songs he wrote lyrically and musically. who knows. is cornell a good guitar player? up there with stone?
Release, Black, and Nothingman would sound perfect with one guitar acoustic! Cornell is an excellent guitar player. Some of the chord changes that he does on fast songs are extremely intricate. He plays guitar on almost every Soundgarden song except a few older songs, and Outshined even that he has pulled off an amazing acoustic solo version of.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band! I have seen Ed solo 6 times and loved every minute of it, but the comparison is simply that there is more material to draw from in Cornells arsenal for a solo show with him being able to play just about everything he has touched, than Ed playing only slower tunes that he has written and covers.
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Release, Black, and Nothingman would sound perfect with one guitar acoustic! Cornell is an excellent guitar player. Some of the chord changes that he does on fast songs are extremely intricate. He plays guitar on almost every Soundgarden song except a few older songs, and Outshined even that he has pulled off an amazing acoustic solo version of.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band! I have seen Ed solo 6 times and loved every minute of it, but the comparison is simply that there is more material to draw from in Cornells arsenal for a solo show with him being able to play just about everything he has touched, than Ed playing only slower tunes that he has written and covers.
yeah release and nothing man would be sweet! i'm actually very surprised he hasn't played nothing man solo yet. thanks for the info about chris cornell. I'm not the biggest fan so I obviously know little about his solo work. Thanks!
I just looked back and scrolled through some of his old Setlists and did find one or two where he played Present Tense and Smile. So I guess he will do it, it is just not often or comfortable/ necessary in his eyes!
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I just looked back and scrolled through some of his old Setlists and did find one or two where he played Present Tense and Smile. So I guess he will do it, it is just not often or comfortable/ necessary in his eyes!
wow I never knew he played present tense solo. That seems like a tough one since mike's and ed's guitar have different tuning.
It was with Glen Hansard in Rio in May 2014. He did PT and Smile and Indifference with Kelly Slater. So not quite solo, but at his solo show. All PJ songs that he Ed didn't write the music to though!
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I love both, but NY can't touch Dylan's career. I have it 15 classic albums to 10. We should start a thread on this but I bet NY would win here pretty handily.
Cornell has put out solo albums regularly for the last 15 or so years and tours regularly when he's not in SG. I've seen Cornell 3 times in the 4 years.
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Are you people fucking insane? I saw Chris at the 9:30 Club in D.C. It was, well, I personally felt like I did not get my money's worth. Just an opinion. I have seen Eddie live 22 times, and before you start bitching, I am retired, and am now a measly record store owner. As my friends on here who know me, I pretty much go to all the East Coast shows, and did the whole Canada tour with my Mom. Eddie was right, the roads suck...kuh kuh....kuh kuh.....kuh kuh. I do what I want now, so when I go, I go big. That being said, I have never left Eddie's show without a full heart and a joyful soul, inspired to be a better human. I always feel like he has always given way more than than we could ever give back. Eddie speaks to your soul with his music, and Chris, as brilliant as he is most assuredly is, does not compare. Again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Peace
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I think the question was more about who has the better solo career, not who has the better live performance. Chris Cornell has put out 4 (5 if you count the live acoustic one). Eddie has two, one of which is a 30 minute movie soundtrack and the other an album full of ukelele songs.
i don't think eddie has a solo career. Eddie has a solo side project. Eddies career is with Pearl Jam. When he gets antzy and wants to tour when the band does he goes out on the road.
Cornell tours year in year out. His bread and butter is with his solo work. Soundgarden is his side project now. Solo is career. He keeps doing the solo and goes back to SG once and while.
I've seen cornell do the acoustic live show 3 times now and Eddie once. The best cornell one was still the first one i attended (but the other two were great). Eddie solo was pretty damn good. If I had to say which was better I'd lean towards Eddie but I'm super biased because I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. I think this is moot because this thread isn't asking who puts on the better show. It's asking who has the better solo career. Only of them has a solo career. The other one does it on the side.
I think the question was more about who has the better solo career, not who has the better live performance
Exactly. Better solo career: Chris hands down. And what's up with all the rationalizing? It's as clear as night and day.
Better live performance? That's more subjective and obviously folks here are biased Up till recently I would have said close, but I would prefer to see Eddie solo. After Chris' Higher Truth tour this year? I might have to go with Chris I've seen Ed 7x and Chris 11x (soon to be 12, maybe 13). You'd think the shows would be stale by now but I've seen Chris on 4 separate solo tours and love how comfortable he's become on stage by himself at the moment. He says some really random crap on stage, and he has so many different sounds, from his mellow solo stuff to heavy Soundgarden to rocking Audioslave to all the random covers including River of Deceit now. And let's not forget that most TOTD songs live on through Chris. And adding Bryan Gibson the cellist on some songs has further elevated his performance if that's even possible.
Ok I will stop now. I love Pearl Jam and Eddie, I truly do! But I think Chris is pretty amazing too.
This is truly the most painful thing I have had the displeasure of watching. Eddie IS a solo "show/album/bootleg/lp/ep/45/77/wax heavy drawn, 18mm, I don't give a holy Fuck how you measure it..." PERIOD! Not only do Eddie's "Solo" shows encompass what music really truly is, he offers you a RARE insight into his mind. To compare the two would be a spurious comparison, baseless in reality. It is a pleasure to be "in the room", as they say...as in, In the back, the fucking zzz HIGH holy back (Quick story, I saw Eddie call out a dude in the NO SHIT WORST SEAT IN THE HOUSE...HE WAS DEAD CENTER HIGH IN THE B A C K, A FAR VIEW FROM WHAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CRAVE. I saw this dude early on because he was literally having the best time ever, he knew every song and he partied HARD, 110%, and Eddie noticed him. He had him brought down and I will not further elaborate, but as to say he was Deservedly Rewarded for his High marks in BREAK NECK ALL OUT SHIT FLYING chair breaking PARTY PACE. You just don't find this shit anymore. There are a few (Red Wanting Blue, The White Buffalo, we all now 2 or 3) that have payed there dues and are legit craftsmen and poets with there music. This whole EV comparison shit is just silly, so please stop looking silly, I am tired!! I SAID GOOD DAY!!!
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This is truly the most painful thing I have had the displeasure of watching. Eddie IS a solo "show/album/bootleg/lp/ep/45/77/wax heavy drawn, 18mm, I don't give a holy Fuck how you measure it..." PERIOD! Not only do Eddie's "Solo" shows encompass what music really truly is, he offers you a RARE insight into his mind. To compare the two would be a spurious comparison, baseless in reality. It is a pleasure to be "in the room", as they say...as in, In the back, the fucking zzz HIGH holy back (Quick story, I saw Eddie call out a dude in the NO SHIT WORST SEAT IN THE HOUSE...HE WAS DEAD CENTER HIGH IN THE B A C K, A FAR VIEW FROM WHAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CRAVE. I saw this dude early on because he was literally having the best time ever, he knew every song and he partied HARD, 110%, and Eddie noticed him. He had him brought down and I will not further elaborate, but as to say he was Deservedly Rewarded for his High marks in BREAK NECK ALL OUT SHIT FLYING chair breaking PARTY PACE. You just don't find this shit anymore. There are a few (Red Wanting Blue, The White Buffalo, we all now 2 or 3) that have payed there dues and are legit craftsmen and poets with there music. This whole EV comparison shit is just silly, so please stop looking silly, I am tired!! I SAID GOOD DAY!!!
Yeah man, I get it...went to solo show in 2012 and it was breathtakingly awesome. Also happened to be the day Obama was re-elected and he was in a good mood. Gave me and everyone else waiting by the bus a hug.
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Pearl Jam is my favorite band, but their music is a true collaboration. Songs contributed by each member. When Ed plays solo, he only plays "his songs" and covers. Where as Chris as the primary songwriter of Temple of The Dog, Soundgarden, Audio Slave, his Solo stuff, plays songs from all of those albums and covers. There is so much material to make an amazing show!
Ed doesn't usually play Stone, Jeff, and Mike Stuff where as Chris plays and wrote much from the bands he was in anyway.
As far as recordings, there just is more material that Chris has put out over a longer period of time. I enjoy them both (not a fan of the Scream album) but much of both of them I enjoy a great deal.
Seasons is the only solo Cornell that is worth listening to IMO. Tried to listen to his new album and couldn't finish one track.
Seasons, Sunshower, Can't Change Me, You Know My Name....The new album has a few great tracks in my opinion and some good ones as well. Try Dead Wishes, Track #2
What stone or Jeff song do you think Ed could do solo live?
Stone, Bombs away, Remain... Jeff, anything from While the heart beats
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This is truly the most painful thing I have had the displeasure of watching. Eddie IS a solo "show/album/bootleg/lp/ep/45/77/wax heavy drawn, 18mm, I don't give a holy Fuck how you measure it..." PERIOD! Not only do Eddie's "Solo" shows encompass what music really truly is, he offers you a RARE insight into his mind. To compare the two would be a spurious comparison, baseless in reality. It is a pleasure to be "in the room", as they say...as in, In the back, the fucking zzz HIGH holy back (Quick story, I saw Eddie call out a dude in the NO SHIT WORST SEAT IN THE HOUSE...HE WAS DEAD CENTER HIGH IN THE B A C K, A FAR VIEW FROM WHAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CRAVE. I saw this dude early on because he was literally having the best time ever, he knew every song and he partied HARD, 110%, and Eddie noticed him. He had him brought down and I will not further elaborate, but as to say he was Deservedly Rewarded for his High marks in BREAK NECK ALL OUT SHIT FLYING chair breaking PARTY PACE. You just don't find this shit anymore. There are a few (Red Wanting Blue, The White Buffalo, we all now 2 or 3) that have payed there dues and are legit craftsmen and poets with there music. This whole EV comparison shit is just silly, so please stop looking silly, I am tired!! I SAID GOOD DAY!!!
This is truly the most painful thing I have had the displeasure of watching. Eddie IS a solo "show/album/bootleg/lp/ep/45/77/wax heavy drawn, 18mm, I don't give a holy Fuck how you measure it..." PERIOD! Not only do Eddie's "Solo" shows encompass what music really truly is, he offers you a RARE insight into his mind. To compare the two would be a spurious comparison, baseless in reality. It is a pleasure to be "in the room", as they say...as in, In the back, the fucking zzz HIGH holy back (Quick story, I saw Eddie call out a dude in the NO SHIT WORST SEAT IN THE HOUSE...HE WAS DEAD CENTER HIGH IN THE B A C K, A FAR VIEW FROM WHAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CRAVE. I saw this dude early on because he was literally having the best time ever, he knew every song and he partied HARD, 110%, and Eddie noticed him. He had him brought down and I will not further elaborate, but as to say he was Deservedly Rewarded for his High marks in BREAK NECK ALL OUT SHIT FLYING chair breaking PARTY PACE. You just don't find this shit anymore. There are a few (Red Wanting Blue, The White Buffalo, we all now 2 or 3) that have payed there dues and are legit craftsmen and poets with there music. This whole EV comparison shit is just silly, so please stop looking silly, I am tired!! I SAID GOOD DAY!!!
You're still missing the point of the thread. The argument isn't over who is the best solo artist, it's who has the best solo career. Eddie does solo tours from time to time and has 1.5 solo album. It's not his career it's his side project. Cornell has 5 solo albums now and relentlessly tours as a solo artist. It's his bread and butter. It's his career (Soundgarden is now his side project).
If the poll was worded "Who has the better live show, Vedder or Cornell" then I bet on this PJ biased board Eddie wins by a landslide. Unfortunately that's not the question. The question is who has the better solo career. Eddie doesn't have a solo career. His bread & butter & career is still Pearl Jam. Solo is something he does occasionally on the side. Out of the two Cornell's the only one who has made playing solo his career.
Not sure, but Ryan Adams, Bruce, and Uncle Neil are better than both by a lot as far as solo albums and shows go.
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Close poll, fan of both artists. Euphoria morning is a great album and the live songbook shows chris cornells amazing vocal talents. But the into the wild soundtrack lyrically is some of eddies best work...his acoustic guitar picking is pretty cool and obviously he broughtit to the for on backspacer, which regardless of opinion is great album. Haven't had the pleasure of seeing any the artists live, but have watched countless concerts on the net...I just connect with ed more and will be interesting to see his future output.
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What I mean is that are many songs that Ed would have the musical ability to play guitar on and sing to (Release, Nothingman, Ledbetter, too many to list...) Those are very easy to play and sing from a musicians stand point, but because he did not write the music to those he would not play those in his solo shows. There is just less material to choose from. I'm not saying it should be a PJ show with Ed sitting on a stool. He just sticks to the PJ material that he wrote the music to which is a much smaller proportional amount of material.
yeah but how many of them would sound good on one acoustic guitar? or it could just be a respect thing to his fellow band members, he will only play songs he wrote lyrically and musically. who knows. is cornell a good guitar player? up there with stone?
Release, Black, and Nothingman would sound perfect with one guitar acoustic! Cornell is an excellent guitar player. Some of the chord changes that he does on fast songs are extremely intricate. He plays guitar on almost every Soundgarden song except a few older songs, and Outshined even that he has pulled off an amazing acoustic solo version of.
Pearl Jam is my favorite band! I have seen Ed solo 6 times and loved every minute of it, but the comparison is simply that there is more material to draw from in Cornells arsenal for a solo show with him being able to play just about everything he has touched, than Ed playing only slower tunes that he has written and covers.
thanks for the info about chris cornell. I'm not the biggest fan so I obviously know little about his solo work. Thanks!
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Cornell has put out solo albums regularly for the last 15 or so years and tours regularly when he's not in SG. I've seen Cornell 3 times in the 4 years.
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i don't think eddie has a solo career. Eddie has a solo side project. Eddies career is with Pearl Jam. When he gets antzy and wants to tour when the band does he goes out on the road.
Cornell tours year in year out. His bread and butter is with his solo work. Soundgarden is his side project now. Solo is career. He keeps doing the solo and goes back to SG once and while.
I've seen cornell do the acoustic live show 3 times now and Eddie once. The best cornell one was still the first one i attended (but the other two were great). Eddie solo was pretty damn good. If I had to say which was better I'd lean towards Eddie but I'm super biased because I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. I think this is moot because this thread isn't asking who puts on the better show. It's asking who has the better solo career. Only of them has a solo career. The other one does it on the side.
Better live performance? That's more subjective and obviously folks here are biased
Ok I will stop now. I love Pearl Jam and Eddie, I truly do! But I think Chris is pretty amazing too.
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If the poll was worded "Who has the better live show, Vedder or Cornell" then I bet on this PJ biased board Eddie wins by a landslide. Unfortunately that's not the question. The question is who has the better solo career. Eddie doesn't have a solo career. His bread & butter & career is still Pearl Jam. Solo is something he does occasionally on the side. Out of the two Cornell's the only one who has made playing solo his career.