The Ongoing Saga That Is Stone Temple Pilots

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    I don't even know what the X-Factor is. Dumped TV years ago.
    haha. me too (netflix only). but it's the british version of American Idol. Simon Cowell's talent show. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 10,019
    I have never heard of Jeff Gutt and don't watch any of those dumb panel-of-judges talent shows.  So, like 2-feign, I'm coming into this blind (or deaf, should I say?).  I really dig the new single after the first listen.

    Like Hugh said, listen to it for what it is instead of focusing on what it isn't.  And what it is, to me, is Stone Temple Pilots.  It sounds like the band I remember.  Sure, the guy does sound a lot like Weiland but it's different enough that at least I can discern.  And no offense to the deceased, but he sounds a hell of a lot better than Chester.  I gotta say, based off this single alone, I'm looking forward to some new STP!
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    new album Spring 2018.
  • Looks like they went for a Scott sound a like.  
    It’s a hard call to make, at the end of the day they needed someone who could sing the songs in a recognisable way. They tried something different with Chester, and whilst I don’t want to put him down, for obvious reasons, I don’t think he was a great fit.

    I like the new song, decent chorus, and thankfully some really strong vocals. I’m looking forward to the album. 
    As a side note, I did feel that heavy feeling of ‘what could have been’ with Scott, especially as it’s approaching the 2nd anniversary of his passing. 
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 27,450
    heard the song today on the radio.  It was ok.  didn't love it, didn't hate it.  Sounded like it could have been off their self titled album from a few years ago.
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 26,910
    I kind of like the new single. The guitar sounds great.
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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 1,881
    The new song is good!  Much better then i expected.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 6,816
    Yeah I like the new single...sounds like STP
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 3,247
    If I heard this on the radio without knowing I would've thought it was a lost track from the Weiland days. I think it sounds good. Nothing groundbreaking, but a good rock song.
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  • Full show with the new guy: sounds pretty damn good to me

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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 3,770
    I enjoyed that a lot more than i thought I would, to be honest. I thought they sounded really good.
    Cheers for posting it!
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 1,530
    I was fortunate enough to have seen STP with Scott three times, in 1996, 2000 and 2010. All three shows were amazing. 

    I would gladly pay the cost of admission to see them again with their new singer. Quite impressed.

    Thanks for posting that complete show!
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  • RoeDawg13RoeDawg13 Posts: 19

    Album drops March 16. New single, tour dates. Haven't listened to it yet but Meadow was pretty good.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    Meadow was good. The new one isn't the greatest. will listen to it more over the weekend. sometimes headphones make all the difference. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 6,816
    I was an STP fan before I was a PJ fan...I'm glad they went with a Weiland soundalike whether intentional or not.  It fits.
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,493
    It's another strong song, I think he's a great singer in his own right.  Looking forward to the record.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    I was an STP fan before I was a PJ fan...I'm glad they went with a Weiland soundalike whether intentional or not.  It fits.
    thing that bothers me the most is their live show. the whole band did a facebook Q&A when Jeff was announced as the new singer. Several people asked about playing deep cuts live. Robert responded something like "deep cuts? what deep cuts? we play all our songs!". Um, no, you don't. Look at their tour stats for each year. They play 15-20 songs for a headlining set, which is bad enough, and it's mostly the same rotation of songs. Very few deep cuts. If they play a one-off, it's usually a cover. Which is why I skipped going to see them the last time they were here. 3 times for the same album, I just couldn't be bothered. Which is too bad. The show sold so poorly that it was downgraded to a 1500 seat venue, which actually would have been cool. Then Scott broke off from the band again, he was scheduled to play that same venue, but sold so poorly that show was downgraded to a 200 capacity dive bar. I regret not going to that now, as it wasn't long after that he died. But even if he hadn't, $40 to see Scott solo in such a small place? would have been cool, but I had been reading reports of him being so out of it on that tour that the shows all sucked. 

    I wonder if they'll play any of the CheSTP stuff. I kinda doubt it. 

    speaking of tour stats, apparently they played here in Winnipeg in 93 for Core opening for Megadeth on their Countdown to Extinction tour. I loved that album too. No idea why I didn't go. 
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,493
    I don't think they attracted the die hard audience that a band like Pearl Jam does, so they just went the same greatest hits setlist with a couple of new songs thrown in.  Scott was such a shadow of his former self by the end, I don't think I would have wanted to see him in that state.  It's hard looking back, remembering how good he was.  I've been on a bit of a Doors kick recently, and stumbled across his performance with the remaining members.  His version of Break On Through was just incredible - his versatility was beyond.  I'd hope they don't play any of the stuff they did with Chester, it was pretty unremarkable, in my opinion of course.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    I don't think they attracted the die hard audience that a band like Pearl Jam does, so they just went the same greatest hits setlist with a couple of new songs thrown in.  Scott was such a shadow of his former self by the end, I don't think I would have wanted to see him in that state.  It's hard looking back, remembering how good he was.  I've been on a bit of a Doors kick recently, and stumbled across his performance with the remaining members.  His version of Break On Through was just incredible - his versatility was beyond.  I'd hope they don't play any of the stuff they did with Chester, it was pretty unremarkable, in my opinion of course.
    I said the same thing about the Foo. And many people in that thread schooled me on the fact that they have many die hard fans who travel to see them just like PJ does. So I thought "maybe i was wrong about STP's fans too". 
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,493
    I don't think they attracted the die hard audience that a band like Pearl Jam does, so they just went the same greatest hits setlist with a couple of new songs thrown in.  Scott was such a shadow of his former self by the end, I don't think I would have wanted to see him in that state.  It's hard looking back, remembering how good he was.  I've been on a bit of a Doors kick recently, and stumbled across his performance with the remaining members.  His version of Break On Through was just incredible - his versatility was beyond.  I'd hope they don't play any of the stuff they did with Chester, it was pretty unremarkable, in my opinion of course.
    I said the same thing about the Foo. And many people in that thread schooled me on the fact that they have many die hard fans who travel to see them just like PJ does. So I thought "maybe i was wrong about STP's fans too". 
    The key difference with the Foo Fighters being that they appealed to a much wider audience in the first place than STP. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    I don't think they attracted the die hard audience that a band like Pearl Jam does, so they just went the same greatest hits setlist with a couple of new songs thrown in.  Scott was such a shadow of his former self by the end, I don't think I would have wanted to see him in that state.  It's hard looking back, remembering how good he was.  I've been on a bit of a Doors kick recently, and stumbled across his performance with the remaining members.  His version of Break On Through was just incredible - his versatility was beyond.  I'd hope they don't play any of the stuff they did with Chester, it was pretty unremarkable, in my opinion of course.
    I said the same thing about the Foo. And many people in that thread schooled me on the fact that they have many die hard fans who travel to see them just like PJ does. So I thought "maybe i was wrong about STP's fans too". 
    The key difference with the Foo Fighters being that they appealed to a much wider audience in the first place than STP. 
    yeah, I know, but my point is, if a band has that many followers that go to multiple shows, there's very low risk in playing a deep cut or a b side, so why more bands don't do it is beyond me. 
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 1,556
    I was an STP fan before I was a PJ fan...I'm glad they went with a Weiland soundalike whether intentional or not.  It fits.
    thing that bothers me the most is their live show. the whole band did a facebook Q&A when Jeff was announced as the new singer. Several people asked about playing deep cuts live. Robert responded something like "deep cuts? what deep cuts? we play all our songs!". Um, no, you don't. Look at their tour stats for each year. They play 15-20 songs for a headlining set, which is bad enough, and it's mostly the same rotation of songs. Very few deep cuts. If they play a one-off, it's usually a cover. Which is why I skipped going to see them the last time they were here. 3 times for the same album, I just couldn't be bothered. Which is too bad. The show sold so poorly that it was downgraded to a 1500 seat venue, which actually would have been cool. Then Scott broke off from the band again, he was scheduled to play that same venue, but sold so poorly that show was downgraded to a 200 capacity dive bar. I regret not going to that now, as it wasn't long after that he died. But even if he hadn't, $40 to see Scott solo in such a small place? would have been cool, but I had been reading reports of him being so out of it on that tour that the shows all sucked. 

    I wonder if they'll play any of the CheSTP stuff. I kinda doubt it. 

    speaking of tour stats, apparently they played here in Winnipeg in 93 for Core opening for Megadeth on their Countdown to Extinction tour. I loved that album too. No idea why I didn't go. 
    They're doing a "you choose the songs we play" thing for the upcoming tour.

    https://settheset.com/t/stone-temple-pilots

    We will see if the setlist changes. And yes, the Chester songs are listed, so there's a possibility they will play those songs.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    I was an STP fan before I was a PJ fan...I'm glad they went with a Weiland soundalike whether intentional or not.  It fits.
    thing that bothers me the most is their live show. the whole band did a facebook Q&A when Jeff was announced as the new singer. Several people asked about playing deep cuts live. Robert responded something like "deep cuts? what deep cuts? we play all our songs!". Um, no, you don't. Look at their tour stats for each year. They play 15-20 songs for a headlining set, which is bad enough, and it's mostly the same rotation of songs. Very few deep cuts. If they play a one-off, it's usually a cover. Which is why I skipped going to see them the last time they were here. 3 times for the same album, I just couldn't be bothered. Which is too bad. The show sold so poorly that it was downgraded to a 1500 seat venue, which actually would have been cool. Then Scott broke off from the band again, he was scheduled to play that same venue, but sold so poorly that show was downgraded to a 200 capacity dive bar. I regret not going to that now, as it wasn't long after that he died. But even if he hadn't, $40 to see Scott solo in such a small place? would have been cool, but I had been reading reports of him being so out of it on that tour that the shows all sucked. 

    I wonder if they'll play any of the CheSTP stuff. I kinda doubt it. 

    speaking of tour stats, apparently they played here in Winnipeg in 93 for Core opening for Megadeth on their Countdown to Extinction tour. I loved that album too. No idea why I didn't go. 
    They're doing a "you choose the songs we play" thing for the upcoming tour.

    https://settheset.com/t/stone-temple-pilots

    We will see if the setlist changes. And yes, the Chester songs are listed, so there's a possibility they will play those songs.
    i read that they did that before and completely ignored the requests. but hopefully!
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 1,556
    I was an STP fan before I was a PJ fan...I'm glad they went with a Weiland soundalike whether intentional or not.  It fits.
    thing that bothers me the most is their live show. the whole band did a facebook Q&A when Jeff was announced as the new singer. Several people asked about playing deep cuts live. Robert responded something like "deep cuts? what deep cuts? we play all our songs!". Um, no, you don't. Look at their tour stats for each year. They play 15-20 songs for a headlining set, which is bad enough, and it's mostly the same rotation of songs. Very few deep cuts. If they play a one-off, it's usually a cover. Which is why I skipped going to see them the last time they were here. 3 times for the same album, I just couldn't be bothered. Which is too bad. The show sold so poorly that it was downgraded to a 1500 seat venue, which actually would have been cool. Then Scott broke off from the band again, he was scheduled to play that same venue, but sold so poorly that show was downgraded to a 200 capacity dive bar. I regret not going to that now, as it wasn't long after that he died. But even if he hadn't, $40 to see Scott solo in such a small place? would have been cool, but I had been reading reports of him being so out of it on that tour that the shows all sucked. 

    I wonder if they'll play any of the CheSTP stuff. I kinda doubt it. 

    speaking of tour stats, apparently they played here in Winnipeg in 93 for Core opening for Megadeth on their Countdown to Extinction tour. I loved that album too. No idea why I didn't go. 
    They're doing a "you choose the songs we play" thing for the upcoming tour.

    https://settheset.com/t/stone-temple-pilots

    We will see if the setlist changes. And yes, the Chester songs are listed, so there's a possibility they will play those songs.
    i read that they did that before and completely ignored the requests. but hopefully!
    Yep, I'll believe it when I see it.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    listening to Army of Anyone right now. not a huge fan of richard patrick, but always love the deleos' music. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,955
    does anyone have those AOA bonus tracks? i had them all before my pc crashed. 

    B-sides

    1. "Good Time to Loosen" (iTunes exclusive)
    2. "Used to Know Her" (iTunes exclusive)

    Bonus tracks

    1. "Ain't Enough (Acoustic)" (Target exclusive)
    2. "It Doesn't Seem to Matter (Acoustic)" (Best Buy exclusive)
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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 26,910
    does anyone have those AOA bonus tracks? i had them all before my pc crashed. 

    B-sides

    1. "Good Time to Loosen" (iTunes exclusive)
    2. "Used to Know Her" (iTunes exclusive)

    Bonus tracks

    1. "Ain't Enough (Acoustic)" (Target exclusive)
    2. "It Doesn't Seem to Matter (Acoustic)" (Best Buy exclusive)
    Which session are these from? Just something they did for iTunes and Target?
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