The Ongoing Saga That Is Stone Temple Pilots

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  • ComeToTXComeToTX AustinPosts: 5,610
    my2hands said:
    STP died with Weiland
    yup.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 16,234
    Stone Chester Pilots was god awful.
    Hehe!!
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  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 927
    I bought the Stone Chester Pilots  EP out of curiosity from an mp3 site I use and am glad that I only spent 20 cents for it. That was still too much... 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,590
    yeah, blech. i was kinda hoping they'd go back to talk show.
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  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 927
    I don't like AIC 2.0 that much either. The first album was okay, but that 2nd one, not really. Talk Show was a pretty cool side project, though. I think I bought the newest AIC, SCP and Talk Show at the same time and the Talk Show record is definitely the best of the 3.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 5,141
    I think the problem STP had, was when they tried other projects like Talk Show and umm Army of Anyone (?) the fanbase wasn't really there.   I think the guys are stuck in a place where they can't earn a living without the name recognition.   It's not easy.   It's hard enough getting lightning to strike once and be in a good band that sells albums and tickets.   Lightning striking twice is even rarer.   They've tried it twice and it never really took off.

    It's kind of sad.   Every move they make has them playing smaller venues.    They were playing small theaters with Stone Chester Pilots.    That didn't work famously well.  I think it's even less interest with a 3rd singer.

    In regards to AIC.  I tend to agree on the studio albums.   On the two new albums theres a song or two per album I find memorable, but that's it.  I don't really spin them that often.   Nothing like the first time I put on Jar of Flies.     I do find the the live shows are pretty good though.   I saw Wiliam Duvall tour with Jerry Cantrell a few times for solo shows, and I've seen him with AIC twice (once in Vancouver, once opening for GNR last year).   They were pretty good both times.    At least there's that :)



  • FrankY59FrankY59 Posts: 1,001
    I know Eddie Vedder thinks the drummer is the 'heart' of a band but I really think it's the singer.  I think a lot of people can play the notes well but once you hear the different voice it completely throws me...it's why I hate covers.  
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,728
    in your opinion, but that's really up to the band. 

    I think AIC died with Layne, honestly, but I don't begrudge them for using the name. I don't even really think of them as AIC, I think of them more as Jerry Cantrell solo. BGWTB pretty much is a JC solo record. William was rhythm guitar and backing vocals. Dinosaurs was different, and I didn't like it. 

    I don't get hung up so much anymore about bands and whatever name they choose to use when they lose their singer. Same with Courtney Love using Hole. I thought it was stupid, but it didn't make me like/dislike the record. 

    what's in a name, really? marketing, and nothing more. Talk Show probably would have been successful had they used the STP name. it was a good record. 
    AIC 100% died with Layne
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,590
    ok, i get it, you are still having issue with the difference between fact and opinion. that's fine. to each their own. 
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 1,316
    FrankY59 said:
    I know Eddie Vedder thinks the drummer is the 'heart' of a band but I really think it's the singer.  I think a lot of people can play the notes well but once you hear the different voice it completely throws me...it's why I hate covers.  

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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 1,416
    STP, AIC and Blind Melon certainly aren't the same without their respective original singers. That doesn't mean that the rest of the band isn't capable of making great music with a new front man or woman. 

    STP just hasn't found the right candidate, IMO. I'd really like to see them find someone who wasn't trying to mimic Weiland. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,590
    dudeman said:
    STP, AIC and Blind Melon certainly aren't the same without their respective original singers. That doesn't mean that the rest of the band isn't capable of making great music with a new front man or woman. 

    STP just hasn't found the right candidate, IMO. I'd really like to see them find someone who wasn't trying to mimic Weiland. 
    that's just it, really. I mean, with Shannon Hoon, a lot of fans hated how much Travis sounded like him, and I can understand that, but the dude is seriously talented on his own, he's not just some clone. even when the band did their other projects not calling it Blind Melon, they still had singers that had the same range as him. it's just what suits their music I guess. 

    I don't like Chester's voice at all, no matter what band he's singing with. 
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 1,416
    I haven't heard anything that he's done. I never listened to LP and I haven't gotten around to Stone Chester Pilots (lol)! 

    The surviving members of STP are seriously talented and I think they should continue making records. They just have to find the right singer.

    What's Meat Loaf up to these days? Maybe he could fill in. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,590
    the second lead singer of I Mother Earth (Brian Byrne) tried out. He would have been a good fit. Not sexy, but great voice and he definitely has a rockstar look. the guy is head to toe one big tattoo. 


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 11,590
    looks like the band has found a new singer. they aren't announcing who yet. I think they are letting the Core anniversary play out, and they are writing and recording with this new guy. Maybe they'll just drop a new record and that'll be the announcement. 
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