Regardless of his motivation, fuck the motherfucker, throw the book at him, since it was clearly intentional. Used to work around the corner from where it happened.
He was begging to be shot. We should have obliged him.
A parasite.
Yeah, I just saw the video. Better he suffer in prison, in my opinion, as gratifying as his death might have been.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
They’ve identified the perpetrator, don’t want to give his name, though, to try to deny him any “fame”, might I suggest we keep the name out of the discussion/thread?
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I didn't say there is a start time. I don't believe in that. I meant it's the worst possible time to say specifically what you said because you don't even know if anyone connected to ISIS had anything to do with it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
And keep in mind that Trudeau's idea was never for every single one of these people act as voices for non-radicalization. He suggested that they could, not that they all would. Obviously.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I didn't say there is a start time. I don't believe in that. I meant it's the worst possible time to say specifically what you said because you don't even know if anyone connected to ISIS had anything to do with it.
Fair enough. Looking back... I did take a cheap shot at the guy who wasn't ready.
Sorry. My blood boils when shit like this happens. It was inevitable this nonsense was going to rear its head in Canada. I guess I just never prepared myself for the reality of it once it occurred.
I feel awful for those people and I'm sick to my stomach. I'm sure you are too.
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
And keep in mind that Trudeau's idea was never for every single one of these people act as voices for non-radicalization. He suggested that they could, not that they all would. Obviously.
Correct.
And the ones that couldn't or wouldn't are welcomed back- for better or worse.
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
And keep in mind that Trudeau's idea was never for every single one of these people act as voices for non-radicalization. He suggested that they could, not that they all would. Obviously.
Correct.
And the ones that couldn't or wouldn't are welcomed back- for better or worse.
He did say they would monitored of course.... But like everyone else, I don't understand why these people wouldn't be sent directly to prison for the rest of their lives. That's where everyone wants them and where they belong for doing what they did. I definitely do consider it treason.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I and probably every other Canadian is perfectly aware of this. What you said and what he said aren't the same though. Your paraphrasing and deletion of details really distort what Trudeau was actually saying (not that I ever thought it was a good idea, mind you).
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed that he believes returning
Jihadists — like those ISIS members headed back to Canada after losing
the fight abroad — can be rehabilitated into "powerful" voices against
radicalism within Canada."
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
Sorry. Was there a nuance I was supposed to interpret? I spoke to what he expressed. The meaning hasn't changed at all and the message has not been twisted or tweaked: it's the same any way you want to present it.
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
I just spent 2 hours listening to a podcast featuring a former neo-nazi who has spent his life convincing and helping other neo-nazis get out of that life.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start an “in memory” march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
No shame.
Well if crazy people in Toronto did not have such easy access to vans, 8 people would be going back home to their families today.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
No shame.
Well if crazy people in Toronto did not have such easy access to vans, 8 people would be going back home to their families today.
Van attacks don't happen anywhere near the frequency of "responsible" gun owners until their not going on shooting rampages in the US. Lame false analogy on your part. Wouldn't expect anything less though. Since the advent of the van, how many van attacks have there been in Canada? And, since you're making a veiled reference to guns, how many mass shootings have their been in Canada? In fact what's their death rate by guns per 1,000 inhabitants? Do you know if the driver's "crazy?" Because why, only "crazy" people with guns kill people? I thought it was "responsible" gun owners, until they're not, killed people?
Trudeau did not have any new information on the suspect’s possible motives, but said there is still no evident link to terrorism. “At this time we have no reason to suspect that there is a national security element to this attack,” he said.
The PM is very wrong. What defines terror? If driving a van mowing down innocents doesn't qualify as a terror act, what does?
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
You're a real piece of work, damn.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
No shame.
Well if crazy people in Toronto did not have such easy access to vans, 8 people would be going back home to their families today.
We get it, there are many ways to commit mass murder quickly. I think most of are bright enough to know that for most, vehicles improve people's day to day life ... an AR15 does not improve life.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
Take 30 seconds and try to be the person that dog in your avatar thinks you are.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
Uncool.
I'm not surprised to see a response like this though. The pro gun crowd is so desperate to bring any reasonable argument to the table legitimizing their position... they'll reach for anything.
Trudeau did not have any new information on the suspect’s possible motives, but said there is still no evident link to terrorism. “At this time we have no reason to suspect that there is a national security element to this attack,” he said.
The PM is very wrong. What defines terror? If driving a van mowing down innocents doesn't qualify as a terror act, what does?
... But you know what he means man, right? When he says there is no national security element to it, he means that it's not an act connected to a terrorist network. Seriously, do you really want so much to try and make Trudeau look bad that you want to play dumb?
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Initial accounts have it that this guy was just a pathetic loser that women couldn't find anything remotely positive to like... so he ran over a bunch of people because he was so mad that women recognized he was a loser and didn't want to associate with a loser.
Wowee. Video of the suspect being caught... Ummm. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE IDIOTS WALKING BY?!?!??! Ugh! The stupidity/apathy of some people in today's society is so frustrating!
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
“The police chief said there was nothing to indicate the suspect was armed at the time of arrest.” What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders. We should start a march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
Thanks for trolling this tragedy.
Maybe if there were “Van Free Zone” signs on the sidewalk?
No shame.
Well if crazy people in Toronto did not have such easy access to vans, 8 people would be going back home to their families today.
Van attacks don't happen anywhere near the frequency of "responsible" gun owners until their not going on shooting rampages in the US. Lame false analogy on your part. Wouldn't expect anything less though. Since the advent of the van, how many van attacks have there been in Canada? And, since you're making a veiled reference to guns, how many mass shootings have their been in Canada? In fact what's their death rate by guns per 1,000 inhabitants? Do you know if the driver's "crazy?" Because why, only "crazy" people with guns kill people? I thought it was "responsible" gun owners, until they're not, killed people?
How many more before we can start calling them “assault vans”?
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10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
How am I paraphrasing? That's what he said: they were going to become great voices for Canada deterring people from becoming extremists.
It was ridiculous. Just as easy they could become great voices for encouraging people to become extremists.
There are a LOT of nuances that you're trying to ignore there man, on purpose.
I'm not even defending Trudeau - I don't know if there is anyone in the country who thinks that is a good plan. Yes, his idea is ridiculous, and I'd love to know who else in his world thinks it's a good idea... I'm sure someone must be encouraging this, but I can't really imagine who. His wife???! I dunno.
I just don't like it when people twist shit and tweak shit to make it sound like something different from what it really is, and you did that... at the worst possible time, too.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Asking for 'better timing' is tantamount to 'thoughts and prayers'. There's no 'start time' or rules for speaking to incidents like these.
He is a powerful voice and I think former ISIS members could be as well.
Maybe. Likely the exception though right? Not every ex neo-nazi will have the skill set or even the will to begin undoing the damage they caused in their previous life.
If I recall correctly, there was almost a couple hundred Canadians that left to go be extremists. Most of those people aren't coming back to Canada because they have had a change of heart... they're coming back to Canada because their lives were in peril (not exactly the altruistic motivation you're suggesting).
Fair enough. Looking back... I did take a cheap shot at the guy who wasn't ready.
Sorry. My blood boils when shit like this happens. It was inevitable this nonsense was going to rear its head in Canada. I guess I just never prepared myself for the reality of it once it occurred.
I feel awful for those people and I'm sick to my stomach. I'm sure you are too.
Correct.
And the ones that couldn't or wouldn't are welcomed back- for better or worse.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pedestrians-struck-white-van-1.4631564?cid=
Kudos to the cop for not shooting the suspect and taking him alive instead (which is always the goal of course) - kept a cool head there for sure.
What was he pointing at the police in the video?? Regardless, Canada should probably look into ramping up its vehicle laws. Good guy with a van until he isn’t...Pretty sure if you banned all vans, there would be no van murders.
We should start an “in memory” march coinciding with the date of the previous perpetrator of vehicular manslaughter. It is obviously not safe to walk on sidewalks in Toronto...must be terrifying living there with all of the van owners.
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http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-van-attack
From the article...
Trudeau did not have any new information on the suspect’s possible motives, but said there is still no evident link to terrorism. “At this time we have no reason to suspect that there is a national security element to this attack,” he said.
The PM is very wrong. What defines terror? If driving a van mowing down innocents doesn't qualify as a terror act, what does?
We get it, there are many ways to commit mass murder quickly. I think most of are bright enough to know that for most, vehicles improve people's day to day life ... an AR15 does not improve life.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I'm not surprised to see a response like this though. The pro gun crowd is so desperate to bring any reasonable argument to the table legitimizing their position... they'll reach for anything.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-van-attack-driver-profile-alek-minassian-1.4632435?cid=