the one thing we got going for us is our electoral system makes it a bit harder for a trump-like candidate from becoming PM ... if the Liberals actually go ahead with electoral reform - it will be even harder ...
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
This is what I tried to suggest to BS who was having none of it: the nature of future campaigns will likely change. Parties see the value in manipulating the befuddled masses. Convince stupid people the opposition is dysfunctional and that you are awesome... and, without reason or fact... the moron vote has been won.
The moron vote is huge- there are more stupid people than intelligent people. Donald Trump won the presidency of the US for gawds sakes. This was not because people with half a brain believed he was going to make America great again... it was because people with less than half a brain did.
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
I mentioned O'Leary months ago....and was laughed at.
I recall a somewhat healthy discussion about O'Leary a while ago, where nobody was laughing as far as I could tell. We were just discussing the likelihood of him actually becoming Conservative leader and what that would be like. Were you not a part of that conversation? O'Leary has been suggesting that he might give it a go for years. Only time will tell if he actually does it or not. If he does, and I think it's a possibility, I think his chances would be pretty good. As I said back then, all he has in his eyes are dollar signs, and it would be terrible for Canada IMO. However, he's no Canadian Trump. Not even close.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
I mentioned O'Leary months ago....and was laughed at.
I recall a somewhat healthy discussion about O'Leary a while ago, where nobody was laughing as far as I could tell. We were just discussing the likelihood of him actually becoming Conservative leader and what that would be like. Were you not a part of that conversation? O'Leary has been suggesting that he might give it a go for years. Only time will tell if he actually does it or not. If he does, and I think it's a possibility, I think his chances would be pretty good. As I said back then, all he has in his eyes are dollar signs, and it would be terrible for Canada IMO. However, he's no Canadian Trump. Not even close.
maybe not laughed at, but pretty heavily dismissed.
you are correct, he is no trump. but trump's rise has paved the way for oleary and other non-politicians like him.
I doubt very highly oleary would be so embarassing. he's a blowhard, but I don't see him grabbing anyone by the p**sy or saying the same bullshit that trump says. he'll be disrespectful and dismissive of others' opinions, but not nearly in the same way.
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
I mentioned O'Leary months ago....and was laughed at.
I recall a somewhat healthy discussion about O'Leary a while ago, where nobody was laughing as far as I could tell. We were just discussing the likelihood of him actually becoming Conservative leader and what that would be like. Were you not a part of that conversation? O'Leary has been suggesting that he might give it a go for years. Only time will tell if he actually does it or not. If he does, and I think it's a possibility, I think his chances would be pretty good. As I said back then, all he has in his eyes are dollar signs, and it would be terrible for Canada IMO. However, he's no Canadian Trump. Not even close.
maybe not laughed at, but pretty heavily dismissed.
you are correct, he is no trump. but trump's rise has paved the way for oleary and other non-politicians like him.
I doubt very highly oleary would be so embarassing. he's a blowhard, but I don't see him grabbing anyone by the p**sy or saying the same bullshit that trump says. he'll be disrespectful and dismissive of others' opinions, but not nearly in the same way.
I dunno. I think his possible way was paved long before Trump had even really considered running for POTUS. It was as soon as O'Leary started talking about it. I don't see how Trump's win has any impact on it at all, knowing that this idea isn't new and isn't being viewed any differently than it was 2 years ago. I actually think O'Leary is capable of listening to others, and he isn't completely tactless (just looking at how is on Dragon's Den won't paint a full picture to say the least). Again, I think he would be terrible for Canada, but not for the kinds of reasons you're bringing up. He is terrible just because of his pin-point focus on money money money.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
I mentioned O'Leary months ago....and was laughed at.
I recall a somewhat healthy discussion about O'Leary a while ago, where nobody was laughing as far as I could tell. We were just discussing the likelihood of him actually becoming Conservative leader and what that would be like. Were you not a part of that conversation? O'Leary has been suggesting that he might give it a go for years. Only time will tell if he actually does it or not. If he does, and I think it's a possibility, I think his chances would be pretty good. As I said back then, all he has in his eyes are dollar signs, and it would be terrible for Canada IMO. However, he's no Canadian Trump. Not even close.
maybe not laughed at, but pretty heavily dismissed.
you are correct, he is no trump. but trump's rise has paved the way for oleary and other non-politicians like him.
I doubt very highly oleary would be so embarassing. he's a blowhard, but I don't see him grabbing anyone by the p**sy or saying the same bullshit that trump says. he'll be disrespectful and dismissive of others' opinions, but not nearly in the same way.
I dunno. I think his possible way was paved long before Trump had even really considered running for POTUS. It was as soon as O'Leary started talking about it. I don't see how Trump's win has any impact on it at all, knowing that this idea isn't new and isn't being viewed any differently than it was 2 years ago. I actually think O'Leary is capable of listening to others, and he isn't completely tactless (just looking at how is on Dragon's Den won't paint a full picture to say the least). Again, I think he would be terrible for Canada, but not for the kinds of reasons you're bringing up. He is terrible just because of his pin-point focus on money money money.
those aren't the reasons I think he would be a bad PM. those are the reasons I think he's an asshole. not just on dragon's den. I know that's for tv. but any time the guy opens his mouth he's a pompous shithead.
the reason i think he would be a bad PM is the same as you stated: money. he thinks very singularly, everything is financial.
did oleary start talking about it prior to trump announcing his run? I thought it was brought up after the fact.
Haven't read this yet (random google result from two days ago), but this has been building for a while...at first glance, the perfect choice for a Canadian trump.
I mentioned O'Leary months ago....and was laughed at.
I recall a somewhat healthy discussion about O'Leary a while ago, where nobody was laughing as far as I could tell. We were just discussing the likelihood of him actually becoming Conservative leader and what that would be like. Were you not a part of that conversation? O'Leary has been suggesting that he might give it a go for years. Only time will tell if he actually does it or not. If he does, and I think it's a possibility, I think his chances would be pretty good. As I said back then, all he has in his eyes are dollar signs, and it would be terrible for Canada IMO. However, he's no Canadian Trump. Not even close.
maybe not laughed at, but pretty heavily dismissed.
you are correct, he is no trump. but trump's rise has paved the way for oleary and other non-politicians like him.
I doubt very highly oleary would be so embarassing. he's a blowhard, but I don't see him grabbing anyone by the p**sy or saying the same bullshit that trump says. he'll be disrespectful and dismissive of others' opinions, but not nearly in the same way.
I dunno. I think his possible way was paved long before Trump had even really considered running for POTUS. It was as soon as O'Leary started talking about it. I don't see how Trump's win has any impact on it at all, knowing that this idea isn't new and isn't being viewed any differently than it was 2 years ago. I actually think O'Leary is capable of listening to others, and he isn't completely tactless (just looking at how is on Dragon's Den won't paint a full picture to say the least). Again, I think he would be terrible for Canada, but not for the kinds of reasons you're bringing up. He is terrible just because of his pin-point focus on money money money.
those aren't the reasons I think he would be a bad PM. those are the reasons I think he's an asshole. not just on dragon's den. I know that's for tv. but any time the guy opens his mouth he's a pompous shithead.
the reason i think he would be a bad PM is the same as you stated: money. he thinks very singularly, everything is financial.
did oleary start talking about it prior to trump announcing his run? I thought it was brought up after the fact.
I don't like him one little bit, and agree he's an asshole, but to be honest I don't think he's as huge a consistent asshole as you do. I remember hearing him say plenty of non-asshole stuff too. I think it just depends on the topic and the context. At any rate, the idea of him leading is terrible, but I'd pick him over Leitch any day of the week.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Yes, that is excellent! That was one of the things I really held against Harper. He was literally pro-asbestos industry, which I always found really gross.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He's not as crass or crooked as trump, but neither is our political scene in general... As you've all pointed out, he would still be in it for the money, he scores points with rednecks and assholes by being anti-PC, would be elected due to fame from a reality show, and would be horrible for Canada..I was cracking that the Canadian version would be much more palatable by comparison....(as in, tastes like ass instead of...).
Trudeau on Trump’s win Trudeau seems to have found some common ground with U.S. president-elect Donald Trump: despite their political differences, Trudeau says Trump's rise reminds him of his own surprise win in the 2015 election. In the interview, Trudeau compared the strategies that took both men to power. "When you connect with voters, when you connect with citizens and show that you’ve listened to them and, you know, are in alignment with how they’re feeling, this is what happens," Trudeau said. http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-defends-fundraisers-blames-media-and-opposition-for-arousing-criticism-1.3207576
Toronto's not so bad today, but I would like it if Trudeau could take back all the wet, heavy snow I need to get to shovelling, lol (need more coffee first!).
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
So how about we talk about PM Trudeau "We can't shut down the oil sands tomorrow. We need to phase them out, we need to manage the transition off of our dependence on fossil fuels. That is going to take time, and in the meantime, we have to manage that transition." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-outreach-tour-friday-1.3934001
So how about we talk about PM Trudeau "We can't shut down the oil sands tomorrow. We need to phase them out, we need to manage the transition off of our dependence on fossil fuels. That is going to take time, and in the meantime, we have to manage that transition." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-outreach-tour-friday-1.3934001
Hes the opposite of your jesus. And that's a good thing, just to be clear.
Um, he doesn't know how to speak French (which is presumably why he waited to announce this immediately AFTER the french-language debate, so he didn't have to attend it!). He has actually made fun of politicians who have made an effort to become fluent for the sake of their political careers. Can someone even be PM if they can't speak one of the two official languages?? How would he participate in the French language PM debate if he actually wins the Conservative leadership?
Anyway, I think he'll win the leadership simply for lack of other options. Sigh.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
Different systems. Can't compare the two in that way.
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
Different systems. Can't compare the two in that way.
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
Granted the system's are different (most notably a strong third party), but it really did feel like the pot calling the kettle black, especially with one of the panelists having defended Trudeau's "strong majority and mandate" in the past. In any case, it gave me a good chuckle, having been on both ends of the criticism (said it about Chretien, then was told about Harper, lol).
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
Different systems. Can't compare the two in that way.
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
Granted the system's are different (most notably a strong third party), but it really did feel like the pot calling the kettle black, especially with one of the panelists having defended Trudeau's "strong majority and mandate" in the past. In any case, it gave me a good chuckle, having been on both ends of the criticism (said it about Chretien, then was told about Harper, lol).
It's not the pot calling the kettle black because of the different systems. Trudeau basically did win by a landslide under our system.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
Different systems. Can't compare the two in that way.
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
Granted the system's are different (most notably a strong third party), but it really did feel like the pot calling the kettle black, especially with one of the panelists having defended Trudeau's "strong majority and mandate" in the past. In any case, it gave me a good chuckle, having been on both ends of the criticism (said it about Chretien, then was told about Harper, lol).
It's not the pot calling the kettle black because of the different systems. Trudeau basically did win by a landslide under our system.
I'm sorry, but I'll never see less than 40% of the vote being a landslide victory. Going by the seats won, I suppose you could call it that, if you're prepared to acknowledge Harper's landslide. I'll continue to call them false majorities.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
This is downright comical, watching a panel on The National denigrate Trump for not having won the popular vote while turning a blind eye to Trudeau's numbers in our last election (and Harper's before him, to be fair).
Different systems. Can't compare the two in that way.
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
Granted the system's are different (most notably a strong third party), but it really did feel like the pot calling the kettle black, especially with one of the panelists having defended Trudeau's "strong majority and mandate" in the past. In any case, it gave me a good chuckle, having been on both ends of the criticism (said it about Chretien, then was told about Harper, lol).
It's not the pot calling the kettle black because of the different systems. Trudeau basically did win by a landslide under our system.
I'm sorry, but I'll never see less than 40% of the vote being a landslide victory. Going by the seats won, I suppose you could call it that, if you're prepared to acknowledge Harper's landslide. I'll continue to call them false majorities.
Trudeau: 6.9 million votes Harper: 5.6 million votes Mulcair: 3.4 million votes Bloc/Green: 1.5 million total
1.3 million more votes in an election divided 5 ways is a pretty significant margin.
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Cheers,
HFD
The moron vote is huge- there are more stupid people than intelligent people. Donald Trump won the presidency of the US for gawds sakes. This was not because people with half a brain believed he was going to make America great again... it was because people with less than half a brain did.
Stupidity at a shocking level.
you are correct, he is no trump. but trump's rise has paved the way for oleary and other non-politicians like him.
I doubt very highly oleary would be so embarassing. he's a blowhard, but I don't see him grabbing anyone by the p**sy or saying the same bullshit that trump says. he'll be disrespectful and dismissive of others' opinions, but not nearly in the same way.
Cheers,
HFD
I actually think O'Leary is capable of listening to others, and he isn't completely tactless (just looking at how is on Dragon's Den won't paint a full picture to say the least). Again, I think he would be terrible for Canada, but not for the kinds of reasons you're bringing up. He is terrible just because of his pin-point focus on money money money.
the reason i think he would be a bad PM is the same as you stated: money. he thinks very singularly, everything is financial.
did oleary start talking about it prior to trump announcing his run? I thought it was brought up after the fact.
Cheers,
HFD
Good job Trudeau.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/canada/1424857-a-look-at-canadas-140-year-history-with-asbestos-to-be-banned-in-2018
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Trudeau seems to have found some common ground with U.S. president-elect Donald Trump: despite their political differences, Trudeau says Trump's rise reminds him of his own surprise win in the 2015 election.
In the interview, Trudeau compared the strategies that took both men to power.
"When you connect with voters, when you connect with citizens and show that you’ve listened to them and, you know, are in alignment with how they’re feeling, this is what happens," Trudeau said.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-defends-fundraisers-blames-media-and-opposition-for-arousing-criticism-1.3207576
Nice temperatures he's giving us right now.
Christ.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
"We can't shut down the oil sands tomorrow. We need to phase them out, we need to manage the transition off of our dependence on fossil fuels. That is going to take time, and in the meantime, we have to manage that transition."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-outreach-tour-friday-1.3934001
Cheers,
HFD
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kevin-oleary-conservative-leadership-race-1.3939876?cid=
Um, he doesn't know how to speak French (which is presumably why he waited to announce this immediately AFTER the french-language debate, so he didn't have to attend it!). He has actually made fun of politicians who have made an effort to become fluent for the sake of their political careers. Can someone even be PM if they can't speak one of the two official languages?? How would he participate in the French language PM debate if he actually wins the Conservative leadership?
Anyway, I think he'll win the leadership simply for lack of other options. Sigh.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
But I am a firm believer in proportional representation.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Harper: 5.6 million votes
Mulcair: 3.4 million votes
Bloc/Green: 1.5 million total
1.3 million more votes in an election divided 5 ways is a pretty significant margin.
Cheers,
HFD
A lot of jobs, 28,000 jobs. Great construction jobs,"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-keystone-xl-1.3949754
Canada will increase its funding to international organizations that provide abortion-related services after U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order blocking American funding for those services.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3955517/canada-to-increase-reproductive-health-funding-as-trump-orders-cut-1.3955523