I was at the MMJ show in Miami last night and was talking with one of their crew members before the show. He alluded to the cost thing as a huge reason bands don't travel to south Florida every tour. Starting or ending the tour here is the logical thing cost-wise. I doubt that's the reason for a band as big as PJ though. I just think it's political and of course, the palmetto bugs
They haven't played Miami in 20 years, but they've played WPB many times over that span. Not sure why they haven't been back there since 08 though.
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1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
Half full arenas?
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
92 - Orlando
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
Half full arenas?
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
Yeah, that 08 WPB was soldout I believe
www.RLMcDaniel.com
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
Half full arenas?
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
Yeah, that 08 WPB was soldout I believe
You would be correct. Tampa 03 was far from a sell out.
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
Half full arenas?
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
Yeah, that 08 WPB was soldout I believe
You would be correct. Tampa 03 was far from a sell out.
I believe Tampa 00 was a sellout though
www.RLMcDaniel.com
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
Could be they had a bad experience or it could be because Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. Never, ever. He just couldn't win the big one. Seasons and seasons just squandered away. All for nothing.
Yes, Dan Marino is the reason that Pearl Jam doesn't play Miami.
I was at that show...It started pouring during Garden and it was amazing!!
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I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
Orlando 4/24/92 & 8/23/92, Miami 3/28/94, Ft Laud 10/7/96, Alpine Valley 6/26/98, Missoula 9/30/12, EV Jax 11/24/12 & 11/25/12, Chicago (Wrigley) 7/19/13, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Tulsa 10/8/14, Lincoln 10/9/14, Denver 10/22/14, Jacksonville 4/12/16, Greenville 4/16/16, Telluride 7/9/16, Boston (Fenway) 8/5/16 & 8/7/16, Seattle (Safeco) 8/10/18, Boston (Fenway) 9/2/18 & 9/4/18, Dana Point 10/1/21 & 10/2/21, MSG 9/11/22, Denver 9/22/22, Austin 9/18/23 & 9/19/23.
this isnt that complicated if you really think about it... they might be the smartest touring band out there right now... small 3 week regional tours in large venues they will mostly sell out with a few festivals sprinkled in to help market your band and finance the tour... the logistics and cost of traveling to Miami to play to a half full arena is probably not a hot selling point when people sit down at the table to discuss upcoming touring strategies...
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
Half full arenas?
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
Yeah, that 08 WPB was soldout I believe
You would be correct. Tampa 03 was far from a sell out.
Palmetto bugs... the worst. I had a nest of them invade my car one year. Every time I opened the door at night, they would scurry away. I bombed the car like 9x. Couldn't kill him. Ending up junking the car.
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Starting or ending the tour here is the logical thing cost-wise.
I doubt that's the reason for a band as big as PJ though. I just think it's political and of course, the palmetto bugs
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7/12/11 - EV Oakland 2, 10/22/11 - EV Bridge School
9/25/11 Vancouver, 11/26/13 - Oakland, 11/7/15 - Buenos Aires
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
Sorry guys, I just have to...
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
That's probably a 10 hour drive from Miami.
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
Exclude Toronto, and that's as much population as the rest of the cities in the last Canadian tour combined... and it's a 2 hour drive....
But I like your logic though... mostly because it's founded in facts.
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
And no, Austin and Dallas are not Houston.
honestly, i would tour exactly the way pearl jam does... they have this thing down to a science
PJ have played multiple dates in West Palm in the past, play multiple cities in our state, etc...
Hell, they could soon play Cuba and then play Miami (please note Cuba and Miami are not the same place).
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
Oral sex is illegal in Florida.
That time Ed got a sunburn on his back and stage dived at the Cameo back in '92.
Ok that wasn't the smartest move, but we have sunscreen now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSfbyu_m2o&sns=em
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlFx9IaVlNQ
03 - Tampa
08 - Tampa
12 - DeLuna Fest, EV Orlando 1 & 2, EV Ft Lauderdale 1 & 2
13 - Wrigley!!! ,Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford, OKC, Seattle
14 - Leeds, Milton Keynes, St Louis
16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2