Knowing what you know now would you still support the withdrawal of troops from Iraq

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 7,780
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Really? Or is it more like the jobs Trump is getting credit for that have been in the works for years?
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  • joseph33joseph33 NashvillePosts: 733
    We all knew back in 2010 that a vacumme would be created with an early mass withdrawal. We didn't know then exactly what it would be filled in with. All could have been avoided by not invading in the first place. If you don't have an exit strategy to begin with,don't enter in the first place.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Really? Or is it more like the jobs Trump is getting credit for that have been in the works for years?
    Are you suggesting there is no difference between the Trump and Obama energy policies? Really? Even after Keystone approval?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 7,780
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Really? Or is it more like the jobs Trump is getting credit for that have been in the works for years?
    Are you suggesting there is no difference between the Trump and Obama energy policies? Really? Even after Keystone approval?
    I'm suggesting that even if Trump's energy policy will hit Russia's wallet, it isn't likely to have happened in a few weeks.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Really? Or is it more like the jobs Trump is getting credit for that have been in the works for years?
    Are you suggesting there is no difference between the Trump and Obama energy policies? Really? Even after Keystone approval?
    I'm suggesting that even if Trump's energy policy will hit Russia's wallet, it isn't likely to have happened in a few weeks.
    That is fair but oil price today is also dependant upon policy that is predicted to occur into the future. The world is aware of Trump's pro-energy policy which plays a role in today's prices. Unlike healthcare and/or tax reform etc. energy policy is something Trump can change almost single handedly so there isn't that much uncertainty on supply going forward.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
    I very clearly remember you, the war monger, advocating for a much more active US role in supporting Saudi advances against the Houthis in Yemen. I don't have the time nor inclination to find the posts but like every conflict, your advocacy for military force was front and center, as it always is (All for Bibi and Israel, I might add). And yes, US forces are in Syria and Trump is making a grave mistake. It will not end well for the US. And the US will not cleave Putin from Iran and if you think by tanking world oil prices to deprive Moscow and Tehran of much needed income makes the world safer, you are sadly mistaken. They both have alternate ways to strike back and make things worse for the Western powers but it won't be the average US Joe who pays the price. I wish you lived in the US so you could see your tax dollars go to waste while your nation literally crumbles and becomes a second world country. All for bluster and Neocon chest thumping. You think you're so smart regurgitating neocon policy and talking points but you're not. They've been colossal mistakes for the United States, something you Canadians have determined, long ago, to avoid.

    Where's Trump's sanctions for anything Moscow has done? Where's the tough talk on Syria? Iran? Putin told him to stand down and he did. Treasonous.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Really? Or is it more like the jobs Trump is getting credit for that have been in the works for years?
    Are you suggesting there is no difference between the Trump and Obama energy policies? Really? Even after Keystone approval?
    I'm suggesting that even if Trump's energy policy will hit Russia's wallet, it isn't likely to have happened in a few weeks.
    That is fair but oil price today is also dependant upon policy that is predicted to occur into the future. The world is aware of Trump's pro-energy policy which plays a role in today's prices. Unlike healthcare and/or tax reform etc. energy policy is something Trump can change almost single handedly so there isn't that much uncertainty on supply going forward.
    If I had a nickel for every time you've backtracked after someone points out your wishful thinking, I could buy a condo in Vancouver.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
    I very clearly remember you, the war monger, advocating for a much more active US role in supporting Saudi advances against the Houthis in Yemen. I don't have the time nor inclination to find the posts but like every conflict, your advocacy for military force was front and center, as it always is (All for Bibi and Israel, I might add). And yes, US forces are in Syria and Trump is making a grave mistake. It will not end well for the US. And the US will not cleave Putin from Iran and if you think by tanking world oil prices to deprive Moscow and Tehran of much needed income makes the world safer, you are sadly mistaken. They both have alternate ways to strike back and make things worse for the Western powers but it won't be the average US Joe who pays the price. I wish you lived in the US so you could see your tax dollars go to waste while your nation literally crumbles and becomes a second world country. All for bluster and Neocon chest thumping. You think you're so smart regurgitating neocon policy and talking points but you're not. They've been colossal mistakes for the United States, something you Canadians have determined, long ago, to avoid.

    Where's Trump's sanctions for anything Moscow has done? Where's the tough talk on Syria? Iran? Putin told him to stand down and he did. Treasonous.
    You make up narratives in your head. You are also unclear on what type of policy you want. You just went off about the idea of taking a tougher stance and then accused Trump of treason based on some apparent backing off of a tougher line. You need to figure out where you are on the spectrum. For the most part you are just a "resist the republican thought of the day" person. That kind of attitude is not one to take seriously.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
    I very clearly remember you, the war monger, advocating for a much more active US role in supporting Saudi advances against the Houthis in Yemen. I don't have the time nor inclination to find the posts but like every conflict, your advocacy for military force was front and center, as it always is (All for Bibi and Israel, I might add). And yes, US forces are in Syria and Trump is making a grave mistake. It will not end well for the US. And the US will not cleave Putin from Iran and if you think by tanking world oil prices to deprive Moscow and Tehran of much needed income makes the world safer, you are sadly mistaken. They both have alternate ways to strike back and make things worse for the Western powers but it won't be the average US Joe who pays the price. I wish you lived in the US so you could see your tax dollars go to waste while your nation literally crumbles and becomes a second world country. All for bluster and Neocon chest thumping. You think you're so smart regurgitating neocon policy and talking points but you're not. They've been colossal mistakes for the United States, something you Canadians have determined, long ago, to avoid.

    Where's Trump's sanctions for anything Moscow has done? Where's the tough talk on Syria? Iran? Putin told him to stand down and he did. Treasonous.
    You make up narratives in your head. You are also unclear on what type of policy you want. You just went off about the idea of taking a tougher stance and then accused Trump of treason based on some apparent backing off of a tougher line. You need to figure out where you are on the spectrum. For the most part you are just a "resist the republican thought of the day" person. That kind of attitude is not one to take seriously.
    What has Trump done that is a tougher line than what Obama did a few months ago? Nothing. I'm resisting incompetence and a bought and paid for lacky of Putin's.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
    I very clearly remember you, the war monger, advocating for a much more active US role in supporting Saudi advances against the Houthis in Yemen. I don't have the time nor inclination to find the posts but like every conflict, your advocacy for military force was front and center, as it always is (All for Bibi and Israel, I might add). And yes, US forces are in Syria and Trump is making a grave mistake. It will not end well for the US. And the US will not cleave Putin from Iran and if you think by tanking world oil prices to deprive Moscow and Tehran of much needed income makes the world safer, you are sadly mistaken. They both have alternate ways to strike back and make things worse for the Western powers but it won't be the average US Joe who pays the price. I wish you lived in the US so you could see your tax dollars go to waste while your nation literally crumbles and becomes a second world country. All for bluster and Neocon chest thumping. You think you're so smart regurgitating neocon policy and talking points but you're not. They've been colossal mistakes for the United States, something you Canadians have determined, long ago, to avoid.

    Where's Trump's sanctions for anything Moscow has done? Where's the tough talk on Syria? Iran? Putin told him to stand down and he did. Treasonous.
    You make up narratives in your head. You are also unclear on what type of policy you want. You just went off about the idea of taking a tougher stance and then accused Trump of treason based on some apparent backing off of a tougher line. You need to figure out where you are on the spectrum. For the most part you are just a "resist the republican thought of the day" person. That kind of attitude is not one to take seriously.
    What has Trump done that is a tougher line than what Obama did a few months ago? Nothing. I'm resisting incompetence and a bought and paid for lacky of Putin's.
    Once in awhile you should read a Canadian paper...

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/lawrence-solomon-with-an-arab-nato-and-a-contained-iran-trump-is-changing-the-middle-east&pubdate=2017-03-27
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:


    So,BS, where's the surge?Or more precisely, what is it that the brilliant strategy of Bannon and Kushner, mmmm Kushner, have formulated regarding a Trump Iraq policy? Or maybe, you'd prefer discussing Syria? Or Iran? Excuse me while I change out my skis.

    Is this what you were looking for?

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-26-16-28-47

    Forces airlifted behind enemy lines four days ago. The first rule of fight club is we don't talk about fight club.
    What are the Russians getting for standing down? Or are we aligned with Russia and Iran now?
    Aligned now? The policy of the Obama administration was alignment. That policy is ending. The goal now is to hopefully split Russia from Iran. Difficult but not impossible. Russia will get nothing other then maybe an ability to save face as they pull back. Trump energy policy is already hitting Russia in the pocketbook and they will not be able to finance their military incursions much longer. The bigger problem is that the old global order is coming apart. What comes nextbis anybody's guess.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2017/03/27/not-a-king-but-the-king-of-beggars/
    Do you honestly believe Putin is going to be split or prevented from aligning with Iran? And I notice you didn't mention Syria? Soon you'll be advocating an invasion just like you did for that splendid little war in Yemen.
    Didn't mention Syria? The AP article above was all about Syria. US forces are already there in some capacity. Read please. Second I don't think Putin can necessarily be cleaved from supporting Iran but that should be the plan. Russian and Iran are both hurting due to the drop in oil prices and current US energy policy. Like victory in the cold war getting Russia to back down will require their foreign excursions to become fruitless and expensive. Lastly on Yemen...you continue to lie...and lie...and lie. I have not advocated for a war there. It is amazing that I still waste time responding to someone who either can't read or won't read.
    I very clearly remember you, the war monger, advocating for a much more active US role in supporting Saudi advances against the Houthis in Yemen. I don't have the time nor inclination to find the posts but like every conflict, your advocacy for military force was front and center, as it always is (All for Bibi and Israel, I might add). And yes, US forces are in Syria and Trump is making a grave mistake. It will not end well for the US. And the US will not cleave Putin from Iran and if you think by tanking world oil prices to deprive Moscow and Tehran of much needed income makes the world safer, you are sadly mistaken. They both have alternate ways to strike back and make things worse for the Western powers but it won't be the average US Joe who pays the price. I wish you lived in the US so you could see your tax dollars go to waste while your nation literally crumbles and becomes a second world country. All for bluster and Neocon chest thumping. You think you're so smart regurgitating neocon policy and talking points but you're not. They've been colossal mistakes for the United States, something you Canadians have determined, long ago, to avoid.

    Where's Trump's sanctions for anything Moscow has done? Where's the tough talk on Syria? Iran? Putin told him to stand down and he did. Treasonous.
    You make up narratives in your head. You are also unclear on what type of policy you want. You just went off about the idea of taking a tougher stance and then accused Trump of treason based on some apparent backing off of a tougher line. You need to figure out where you are on the spectrum. For the most part you are just a "resist the republican thought of the day" person. That kind of attitude is not one to take seriously.
    What has Trump done that is a tougher line than what Obama did a few months ago? Nothing. I'm resisting incompetence and a bought and paid for lacky of Putin's.
    Once in awhile you should read a Canadian paper...

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/lawrence-solomon-with-an-arab-nato-and-a-contained-iran-trump-is-changing-the-middle-east&pubdate=2017-03-27
    Good luck with that. Let me know when Jared inks the Grand Bargain and there's peace in the Middle East. The analysis fails to mention Shia Iraq and the Kurds fighting for an independent Kurdistan. It also assumes the Sunnis will accept being lackeys of Israel. But one can dream, I suppose.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    Meanwhile, back in reality, Russia and Germany are demanding an investigation into possible US war crimes in the killing of over 200 civilians in Mosul in the UN. You know, the UN that Nikki Haley reps Trump for? The same UN that your hero boy John Bolton wanted to eliminate? The same UN that only seems to have relevance when a republican president wants to hide behind it? You're embarrassing yourself. Again.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.
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    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.

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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.

    And who is responsible for the collapse of Libya and the current Russian attempt to establish a presence there? Are you really that obtuse?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.

    And who is responsible for the collapse of Libya and the current Russian attempt to establish a presence there? Are you really that obtuse?
    Who's president now? And what exactly is he doing about the messes created as a result of Bush/Cheney's spreading democracy in the ME? Trump has yet to do anything to counter Russian aggression. Hush money was paid. Are you that ignorant to these realities?
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.

    And who is responsible for the collapse of Libya and the current Russian attempt to establish a presence there? Are you really that obtuse?
    Who's president now? And what exactly is he doing about the messes created as a result of Bush/Cheney's spreading democracy in the ME? Trump has yet to do anything to counter Russian aggression. Hush money was paid. Are you that ignorant to these realities?
    The Russian presence in ALL of these regions is because of Obama. He pulled back from Iraq, pushed for the toppling of Libya, and stood by during the genocide in Syria. The vacuum was all his and Russia filled it. It is these facts you would liked hushed.

    Now as far as Trump is concerned he is slowly working at cleaning up Hurricaine Obama's path of destruction

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/27/trump-has-a-strategy-for-destroying-the-islamic-state-and-its-working/

    Russia will no longer have the flexibility that Obama promised them.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    Mattis will be getting a little more aggressive. Big mess to clean up.

    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/8687/a-higher-risk-us-strategy-to-route-isis-from-mosul-emerges
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,238
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Also back in reality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/politics/russia-afghanistan-libya-syria/index.html

    Too bad it's not Canadian troops to bear the burden of Putin's Trump endorsed policy.

    And who is responsible for the collapse of Libya and the current Russian attempt to establish a presence there? Are you really that obtuse?
    Who's president now? And what exactly is he doing about the messes created as a result of Bush/Cheney's spreading democracy in the ME? Trump has yet to do anything to counter Russian aggression. Hush money was paid. Are you that ignorant to these realities?
    The Russian presence in ALL of these regions is because of Obama. He pulled back from Iraq, pushed for the toppling of Libya, and stood by during the genocide in Syria. The vacuum was all his and Russia filled it. It is these facts you would liked hushed.

    Now as far as Trump is concerned he is slowly working at cleaning up Hurricaine Obama's path of destruction

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/27/trump-has-a-strategy-for-destroying-the-islamic-state-and-its-working/

    Russia will no longer have the flexibility that Obama promised them.
    ".... and it's working".

    No evidence that it's working yet. Most of that is conjecture.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    BS44325 said:

    Mattis will be getting a little more aggressive. Big mess to clean up.

    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/8687/a-higher-risk-us-strategy-to-route-isis-from-mosul-emerges

    So the US is aligned with the third axis of evil Iran now? Did you do a little celebratory jig when it was announced that more than 200 Iraqi civilians were killed in a US air strike as a result of the loosened rules of engagement? You truly relish this stuff, don't you, based on the links you read? Let me know when you holiday in Mosul or Raqqa.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    Try implementing any foreign policy agenda with a SOS so far out of his league. Good fucking luck with that. All everyone else sees is, the US wants our oil or what are we going to do for the US. And Trump has not a clue.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-spends-his-first-weeks-isolated-from-an-anxious-bureaucracy/2017/03/30/bdf8ec86-155f-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,253

    Try implementing any foreign policy agenda with a SOS so far out of his league. Good fucking luck with that. All everyone else sees is, the US wants our oil or what are we going to do for the US. And Trump has not a clue.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-spends-his-first-weeks-isolated-from-an-anxious-bureaucracy/2017/03/30/bdf8ec86-155f-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html

    I don't think Tillerson is out of his league. He's the one person in Trump's cabinet who is reasonably intelligent. Maybe a little evil, but intelligent nonetheless.

    I think the State Dept is intentionally being cut off at the knees by the administration, and Tillerson is following his marching orders.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    CM189191 said:

    Try implementing any foreign policy agenda with a SOS so far out of his league. Good fucking luck with that. All everyone else sees is, the US wants our oil or what are we going to do for the US. And Trump has not a clue.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-spends-his-first-weeks-isolated-from-an-anxious-bureaucracy/2017/03/30/bdf8ec86-155f-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html

    I don't think Tillerson is out of his league. He's the one person in Trump's cabinet who is reasonably intelligent. Maybe a little evil, but intelligent nonetheless.

    I think the State Dept is intentionally being cut off at the knees by the administration, and Tillerson is following his marching orders.
    That may be true but everyone he meets with knows he's a man without a plan and he's seen as the US' CEO only interested in business deals. Screw the rest of the world's problems.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,470
    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.

    Pretty big joke of an article. His only argument is that the surge was a disaster because the results could not be sustained post-withdrawal. Duh. Nobody suggested the results would be sustained post-withdrawal and in fact the collapse was predicted. This guy probably supported the Obama drawdown of troops but wants people to believe the collapse of Iraq was inevitable. The Obama foreign policy has taken a beating over the last week and his supporters are trying to avoid responsibility.
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