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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Anybody know where the chemical weapons came from because there were none in Iraq previously?

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/22/islamic-state-launches-chemical-attack-against-us-/
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    Yea, rummy and Cheney sold them to Saddam in the 80s.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
    This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.

    There won't be 170,000 US troops in Iraq no matter how much your Cheney imitating heart desires it. I'm sure you've been actively lobbying the Canadian government to send over the troops to clean up America's mess, right?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Predicted and desired.
    Desired by whom?
    You and your neocon heroes.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Drowned Out said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Predicted and desired.
    Desired by whom?
    You and your neocon heroes.
    They desired a withdrawal and it's consequences? I don't think so.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
    This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.

    There won't be 170,000 US troops in Iraq no matter how much your Cheney imitating heart desires it. I'm sure you've been actively lobbying the Canadian government to send over the troops to clean up America's mess, right?
    It's the world's mess.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
    This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.

    There won't be 170,000 US troops in Iraq no matter how much your Cheney imitating heart desires it. I'm sure you've been actively lobbying the Canadian government to send over the troops to clean up America's mess, right?
    It's the world's mess.
    No, it's America's mess. You don't see any of the coalition of the willing running in to clean it up, Canada included, do you?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    President Trump will clean it up. As soon as he figures out where the Trump hotels will go, gambling and booze in the basement.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
    This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.

    There won't be 170,000 US troops in Iraq no matter how much your Cheney imitating heart desires it. I'm sure you've been actively lobbying the Canadian government to send over the troops to clean up America's mess, right?
    It's the world's mess.
    No, it's America's mess. You don't see any of the coalition of the willing running in to clean it up, Canada included, do you?
    Canada does have some troops there right now but not enough. Unfortunately the world always follows America's lead and your President could have rallied the world to sustain the peace of 2009. He just chose not to.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Funny, neither do I.

    Ok. So we're on the same page. Now back to the topic at hand. The Iraq war you hate never ended. More troops are going back. Soon enough you'll be at the same troop levels as there were in 2009 with zero to show for it other then ISIS, a collapsed Syria, Iranian/Russian aggression, a refugee crisis and genocide. The withdrawal resulted in more deaths then the invasion. This was all predicted.
    Bullshit. Rummy claimed it would be a cakewalk, the US would be welcomed as liberators, democracy would flow from the ME and it would cost less than half a billion dollars. Predicted my ass. Nice revisionism, professor.
    This is a consequences of withdrawal thread. I think you meant to post that in the Iraq invasion thread. Related yet different topics.

    There won't be 170,000 US troops in Iraq no matter how much your Cheney imitating heart desires it. I'm sure you've been actively lobbying the Canadian government to send over the troops to clean up America's mess, right?
    It's the world's mess.
    No, it's America's mess. You don't see any of the coalition of the willing running in to clean it up, Canada included, do you?
    Canada does have some troops there right now but not enough. Unfortunately the world always follows America's lead and your President could have rallied the world to sustain the peace of 2009. He just chose not to.
    The neocon denial of facts is astounding.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
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    Withdrawal? I never would have went there.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
    What's in Syria? Please, you're not going to draw another false equivalency by comparing Iraq/Syria to Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos are you?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
    What's in Syria? Please, you're not going to draw another false equivalency by comparing Iraq/Syria to Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos are you?
    Quagmire
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
    What's in Syria? Please, you're not going to draw another false equivalency by comparing Iraq/Syria to Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos are you?
    Quagmire
    A quagmire started by a neocon administration with no conscience, makes you proud doesn't it?
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
    What's in Syria? Please, you're not going to draw another false equivalency by comparing Iraq/Syria to Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos are you?
    Quagmire
    A quagmire started by a neocon administration with no conscience, makes you proud doesn't it?
    It wasn't a quagmire when the neocon administration left.
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    More troops going back to Iraq

    https://www.google.ca/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/officials-600-us-troops-heading-iraq/story?id=42420378?client=safari

    Sounds like vietnam era escalationism.

    Yea, because 6,252 is the same as 1,000,000 troops in country. I wonder if there's a secret bombing campaign going on in Iran as well like in Cambodia and Laos? Although I'm sure the neocons wish there were.
    There is in Syria
    What's in Syria? Please, you're not going to draw another false equivalency by comparing Iraq/Syria to Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos are you?
    Quagmire
    A quagmire started by a neocon administration with no conscience, makes you proud doesn't it?
    It wasn't a quagmire when the neocon administration left.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh that's right, Canadians were flocking to Baghdad and Mosul snapping up time shares to escape the harsh winter.
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    https://youtu.be/tLteUGkvpOc
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    There's that neocon revisionist history again. SOFA, who negotiated and signed it again?
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    Because you know, if it's not Canadian troops who are subject to arrest, trial and imprisonment in Iraqi courts and jails, the Americans should have stayed, sovereign, elected representative government and "rights" be damned.
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    Gotta love the neocon way of thinking, spill blood for the rights your fighting for and then disregard the very principles you're espousing.
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    The proxy war in Syria continues

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b1dff53fa4664a28ad9fbd6d4949fe71/russia-warns-against-us-attack-syrian-forces
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    There's that neocon revisionist history again. SOFA, who negotiated and signed it again?

    This one's for you buddy...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/06/clinton-kaine-airbrush-out-inconvenient-details-about-u-s-troop-departure-from-iraq/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_factchecker-305am:homepage/story

    The Washington Post is giving you a couple of pinocchios
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    The climactic battle!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/isis-mosul-iraq-us.html?referer=

    I thought the war was over?!
    Never mind...let's talk about p***y.
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    There's that neocon revisionist history again. SOFA, who negotiated and signed it again?

    This one's for you buddy...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/06/clinton-kaine-airbrush-out-inconvenient-details-about-u-s-troop-departure-from-iraq/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_factchecker-305am:homepage/story

    The Washington Post is giving you a couple of pinocchios
    How does what two candidates claim in a debate make what I said not factual? And as is typical of the neocon way of thinking, you neglect the subtleties of the article you linked, namely that it's more complicated than what or how both candidates described the situation or gave their answers. So, professor, what did I say, specifically, that would earn pinnochios? Reading comprehension is key or reading is fundamental.

    6,252 < 170,000 which is what you advocated for and believed needed to be done to establish the democracy. I know it galls you neocons to no end that the social organizer, Harvard law school educated black man saw and implemented the technological prowess of our armed forces in such a way as to be successful whereas your yalie educated, white NG pilot who supposedly flew jets and dropped ordinance didn't grasp the fundamentals of military strategy by going easy with drones, special forces and technology. Heck, he disbanded the Bin Laden unit. Looks to me that the whole adventure was a Halliburton profit grab. How long after taking office did Obama get Osama? So Mosul is about to fall, ISIS is a former shell of itself, and we've got 6,252 troops in Iraq. Yup, sounds like a quagmire to me.

    Hey, how's that splendid little war in Yemen working out for you?

    Don't quit your day job, professor.
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    People sit and argue but Clinton will ratchet up the war mongering.
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    unsung said:

    People sit and argue but Clinton will ratchet up the war mongering.

    Source?
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2016
    For real?

    Wars in Syria and Libya aren't enough? We had no business going there. If you believe we did then you must also believe Iraq was justified.


    Check her emails like the rest of the modern world.

    Source: Hillary Clinton
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