Some facts for the Obama haters

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,932
    JimmyV said:

    Looks like we lost the Scalia thread for some reason? I'll just leave this here instead:

    image

    There you the proof but you know the haters will be spewing their garbage that he was golfing instead ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    JimmyV said:

    Looks like we lost the Scalia thread for some reason? I'll just leave this here instead:

    image

    There you the proof but you know the haters will be spewing their garbage that he was golfing instead ...
    "That couple could be anybody!"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,932
    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    Looks like we lost the Scalia thread for some reason? I'll just leave this here instead:

    image

    There you the proof but you know the haters will be spewing their garbage that he was golfing instead ...
    "That couple could be anybody!"
    Yeah ok ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    I was joking. ;)
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,105
    More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia_us_56c7707ee4b0ec6725e28291
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,242
    brianlux said:

    More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia_us_56c7707ee4b0ec6725e28291

    They made it clear from day 1. Republicans in the Senate and congress fight against democracy and frankly are disgusting human beings. They are sinking lower and lower by supporting Trump. It's a clown show of epic proportions. I would laugh if it wasn't so impportant.

  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,105


    Smellyman said:

    brianlux said:

    More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia_us_56c7707ee4b0ec6725e28291

    They made it clear from day 1. Republicans in the Senate and congress fight against democracy and frankly are disgusting human beings. They are sinking lower and lower by supporting Trump. It's a clown show of epic proportions. I would laugh if it wasn't so impportant.

    Definitely hard to laugh about and yes, right there in living color 7 seconds.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    edited February 2016
    Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook
    February 19, 2016

    MR. COOK: We've made clear that we need to confront ISIL wherever it rears its head. They have posted direct threat to United States. They have encouraged attacks against the United States and our -- and our allies, and we're going to continue to confront it to protect our national security.

    And this was an instance where we saw an opportunity to strike at ISIL in Libya, and we carried out that strike. And we feel -- we feel confident this was a successful strike.

    Q: But Peter, under what authority was this strike carried out? There is no AUMF for ISIS in Libya, no Americans were killed in the two attacks in Tunisia.

    Under what authority?

    MR. COOK: Well, again, we've struck in Libya previously, under the existing use of force, the authorization for the use of military force.

    Q: In 2001, against Al Qaida?

    MR. COOK: Yes, specifically. And this -- in our targeting of Chouchane in this instance.

    And we believe that this was based on -- was legal under international law.

    Q: But you're saying that you're using the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaida to go after ISIS in Libya (2016)?

    MR. COOK: Specifically, again, as a -- the use of military force against ISIL is authorized by the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, specifically. Just as it was -- as we used it in our previous strike in Libya.
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    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    COMBINED!

    The Obama administration has used the Espionage Act to target whistle-blowers more than all other presidents combined — “three times more".
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    2008 - Obama wants to close Gitmo
    2016 - Obama wants to close Gitmo
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,115
    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 41,657
    JimmyV said:

    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.

    ..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 41,657
    JC29856 said:

    COMBINED!

    The Obama administration has used the Espionage Act to target whistle-blowers more than all other presidents combined — “three times more".

    This is one of things I really don't like about Obama.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CAPosts: 7,623
    JC29856 said:

    2008 - Obama wants to close Gitmo
    2016 - Obama wants to close Gitmo

    And it never happened because of republican congress being butthurt that a white Texan war criminal they love is replaced by a black democrat.

    You're welcome.

    It's called civics class. You should enroll sometime.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,115
    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.

    ..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
    Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there. :wink:

    No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 41,657
    edited February 2016
    JimmyV said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.

    ..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
    Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there. :wink:

    No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
    It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,115
    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.

    ..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
    Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there. :wink:

    No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
    It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
    I would prefer they were not brought into the continental US which is why I have never minded this place not being closed. Does it seem shady? Yeah, probably...but maybe necessarily so.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 41,657
    JimmyV said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JimmyV said:

    Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.

    ..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
    Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there. :wink:

    No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
    It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
    I would prefer they were not brought into the continental US which is why I have never minded this place not being closed. Does it seem shady? Yeah, probably...but maybe necessarily so.
    I prefer a government to uphold their own laws.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    edited February 2016

    JC29856 said:

    2008 - Obama wants to close Gitmo
    2016 - Obama wants to close Gitmo

    And it never happened because of republican congress being butthurt that a white Texan war criminal they love is replaced by a black democrat.

    You're welcome.

    It's called civics class. You should enroll sometime.
    Ignoring congressional recesses....It could take 1 ( maybe 2) day to close Gitmo, Obama had 72 filibuster free days to close Gitmo.

    I forgot to mention that it was a first 100 days promise.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,131
    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,021

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,290
    edited February 2016
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,131
    rgambs said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

    "i'm not here to start the fire. i am here to fan the flames..."

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,705

    rgambs said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,131
    my2hands said:

    rgambs said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow
    there is no squirming. they just refuse to hold meetings/hearings and then refuse to answer questions from the media.

    it is very hold to hold people accountable or make them squirm when they absolutely refuse to do their fucking job.
    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

    "i'm not here to start the fire. i am here to fan the flames..."

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    "Brutal dictators"

    President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

    With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,131
    JC29856 said:

    "Brutal dictators"

    President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

    With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.

    of course.

    it is not a crime when our guys do it. only when theirs torture our people.
    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

    "i'm not here to start the fire. i am here to fan the flames..."

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,305
    The Obama administration has long called itself the most transparent administration in history. But newly released Department of Justice (DOJ) documents show that the White House has actually worked aggressively behind the scenes to scuttle congressional reforms designed to give the public better access to information possessed by the federal government.

    https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 26,195
    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 26,195
    edited March 2016
    This is such a phenomenal article. I view it as very positive but certainly understand that it will be inteperted differently by his critics.

    It also makes me very nervous about Hillary.

    I very much appreciate how smart and pragmatic Obama is. Well worth the read by everyone

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
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