Some facts for the Obama haters

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,740
    Put this in your pipe and smoke it. Miss him yet?

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/us/politics/04obama.text.html
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,740
    Real presidential leadership on display.


  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,819
    Another great and brilliant example of how to be a president and how to be presidential......

    Obama's Charlottesville message one of the most liked tweets in history
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,819
    Now it's  #1
    Sure to make you know who crazy

    Charlottesville Violence: Obama's Response Most Liked Tweet
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    some good facts thanks to Obama

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/22/u-s-active-duty-military-presence-overseas-is-at-its-smallest-in-decades/

    The number of active-duty U.S. military troops stationed overseas has dipped below 200,000 for the first time in at least 60 years. The decline, reflecting a broader one in active-duty U.S. forces, has occurred in multiple countries – including South Korea, which has become a focus of attention amid escalating tensions between the United States and North Korea.

    There were around 1.3 million total active-duty U.S. military personnel in 2016. Of these, 193,442 – or 15% – were deployed overseas. That’s the smallest number and share of active-duty members overseas since at least 1957, the earliest year with comparable data, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of information from the Defense Manpower Data Center, a statistical arm of the Department of Defense.

    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,315
    JC29856 said:
    some good facts thanks to Obama

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/22/u-s-active-duty-military-presence-overseas-is-at-its-smallest-in-decades/

    The number of active-duty U.S. military troops stationed overseas has dipped below 200,000 for the first time in at least 60 years. The decline, reflecting a broader one in active-duty U.S. forces, has occurred in multiple countries – including South Korea, which has become a focus of attention amid escalating tensions between the United States and North Korea.

    There were around 1.3 million total active-duty U.S. military personnel in 2016. Of these, 193,442 – or 15% – were deployed overseas. That’s the smallest number and share of active-duty members overseas since at least 1957, the earliest year with comparable data, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of information from the Defense Manpower Data Center, a statistical arm of the Department of Defense.

    Yet our battleships can't seem to keep out of the way of cargo ships costing American lives, we need to get our act together starting with the commander in chief.

    Peace
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    g under p said:
    JC29856 said:
    some good facts thanks to Obama

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/22/u-s-active-duty-military-presence-overseas-is-at-its-smallest-in-decades/

    The number of active-duty U.S. military troops stationed overseas has dipped below 200,000 for the first time in at least 60 years. The decline, reflecting a broader one in active-duty U.S. forces, has occurred in multiple countries – including South Korea, which has become a focus of attention amid escalating tensions between the United States and North Korea.

    There were around 1.3 million total active-duty U.S. military personnel in 2016. Of these, 193,442 – or 15% – were deployed overseas. That’s the smallest number and share of active-duty members overseas since at least 1957, the earliest year with comparable data, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of information from the Defense Manpower Data Center, a statistical arm of the Department of Defense.

    Yet our battleships can't seem to keep out of the way of cargo ships costing American lives, we need to get our act together starting with the commander in chief.

    Peace
    Your post would count as #6 but technically since its in this thread it is disqualified.
    Anyway, back to topic, these statistics do not equate to any less worldwide carnage, death or destruction committed by us since most of that is now done by unmanned drones.   
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    ahhh

    http://inthesetimes.com/features/obama_police_miltary_equipment_ban.html

    Despite President Obama's much-touted 2015 executive order, an In These Timesinvestigation reveals evidence that police departments are still receiving as much military hardware from the Pentagon as ever.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    edited August 30
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/242346-obama-limiting-military-hardware-to-police-departments
    Obama didnt ban anything, he reclassified some items (grenade launchers, tracked armored vehicles, armed aircraft, bayonets, and guns and ammunition of .50 caliber or higher) as "controlled" meaning law enforcement can still get those items if they can justify the use. It was recommended that some military items be prohibited but that didnt happen. Grenade launchers are still available, high powered artillery still available, camo uniforms unavailable, why, because it doesnt look good!

    The 1033 Program was created by the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997 as part of the U.S. Government's Defense Logistics Agency Disposition Services (DLA) to transfer excess military equipment to civilian law enforcement agencies and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on Sept 23, 1996.[1] As of 2014, 8,000 local law enforcement agencies participated in the reutilization program that has transferred $5.1 billion in military hardware from the Department of Defense to local American law enforcement agencies since 1997.[2] According to the DLA, material worth $449 million was transferred in 2013 alone. The most commonly obtained item from the 1033 program is DEMIL A items, which fall off the inventory after one year of ownership. Some of the other most commonly requested items include cold weather clothing, sand bags, medical supplies, sleeping bags, flashlights and electrical wiring. Small arms and vehicles such as aircraft, watercraft and armored vehicles have also been obtained.

    The program has been criticized over the years by local media, by the Office of the Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense in 2003 and the GAO which found waste, abuse and fraud. It was not until media coverage of police during August 2014 Ferguson unrest that the program drew nationwide public attention. It should be noted that the Ferguson Police Department had 1033 equipment during the unrest, obtained prior per the 1033 Program.[3] President Obama signed Executive Order 13688 on May 2015 limiting and prohibiting certain types of equipment.[4][5] On August 28, 2017 President Trump rolled back Obama's Executive Order.[6] The ACLU and the NAACP have raised concerns about the so-called militarization of police forces in the US.[6]


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,740
    JC29856 said:
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/242346-obama-limiting-military-hardware-to-police-departments
    Obama didnt ban anything, he reclassified some items (grenade launchers, tracked armored vehicles, armed aircraft, bayonets, and guns and ammunition of .50 caliber or higher) as "controlled" meaning law enforcement can still get those items if they can justify the use. It was recommended that some military items be prohibited but that didnt happen. Grenade launchers are still available, high powered artillery still available, camo uniforms unavailable, why, because it doesnt look good!

    The 1033 Program was created by the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997 as part of the U.S. Government's Defense Logistics Agency Disposition Services (DLA) to transfer excess military equipment to civilian law enforcement agencies and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on Sept 23, 1996.[1] As of 2014, 8,000 local law enforcement agencies participated in the reutilization program that has transferred $5.1 billion in military hardware from the Department of Defense to local American law enforcement agencies since 1997.[2] According to the DLA, material worth $449 million was transferred in 2013 alone. The most commonly obtained item from the 1033 program is DEMIL A items, which fall off the inventory after one year of ownership. Some of the other most commonly requested items include cold weather clothing, sand bags, medical supplies, sleeping bags, flashlights and electrical wiring. Small arms and vehicles such as aircraft, watercraft and armored vehicles have also been obtained.

    The program has been criticized over the years by local media, by the Office of the Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense in 2003 and the GAO which found waste, abuse and fraud. It was not until media coverage of police during August 2014 Ferguson unrest that the program drew nationwide public attention. It should be noted that the Ferguson Police Department had 1033 equipment during the unrest, obtained prior per the 1033 Program.[3] President Obama signed Executive Order 13688 on May 2015 limiting and prohibiting certain types of equipment.[4][5] On August 28, 2017 President Trump rolled back Obama's Executive Order.[6] The ACLU and the NAACP have raised concerns about the so-called militarization of police forces in the US.[6]


    Oooooooo, sinister. I heard Obama personally delivered some of the equipment and siphoned off a quantity and passed it on to Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. Something tells me another Trump/Russia collusion bomb is being readied. Just a matter of time. 7Xs.
  • What will Donny's letter say to the next president? "No one is greater than me and I accomplished everything I said I would, I'm the greatest, 45."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/03/politics/obama-trump-letter-inauguration-day/index.html

    7Xs.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    temporary!


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:
    temporary!


    Insanity!
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,878
    JC29856 said:
    temporary!


    Kind of weird that Obama would give a 50 second Rose Garden press conference with no other context....

    ...oh wait, here's the speech in it's entirety: http://www.aila.org/infonet/wh-president-speech-deferred-action

    You seem to left out the crucial part where Obama implores Congress to

    "send me the DREAM Act, put it on my desk, and I will sign it right away.  Now, both parties wrote this legislation. And a year and a half ago, Democrats passed the DREAM Act in the House, but Republicans walked away from it. It got 55 votes in the Senate, but Republicans blocked it. The bill hasn’t really changed. The need hasn’t changed. It’s still the right thing to do. The only thing that has changed, apparently, was the politics."

    DACA was temporary in the sense that it was a blueprint for Congress to enact permanent meaningful legislation.  After that speech, 4 bills were produced by House Republicans, which were all later stonewalled by Boehner and the Senate:

    Strengthen and Fortify Enforcement (SAFE) Act
    Legal Workforce Act
    Agricultural Guestworker Act
    Supplying Knowledge Based Immigrants and Lifting Levels of STEM Visas (SKILLS) Act



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  • CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    temporary!


    Kind of weird that Obama would give a 50 second Rose Garden press conference with no other context....

    ...oh wait, here's the speech in it's entirety: http://www.aila.org/infonet/wh-president-speech-deferred-action

    You seem to left out the crucial part where Obama implores Congress to

    "send me the DREAM Act, put it on my desk, and I will sign it right away.  Now, both parties wrote this legislation. And a year and a half ago, Democrats passed the DREAM Act in the House, but Republicans walked away from it. It got 55 votes in the Senate, but Republicans blocked it. The bill hasn’t really changed. The need hasn’t changed. It’s still the right thing to do. The only thing that has changed, apparently, was the politics."

    DACA was temporary in the sense that it was a blueprint for Congress to enact permanent meaningful legislation.  After that speech, 4 bills were produced by House Republicans, which were all later stonewalled by Boehner and the Senate:

    Strengthen and Fortify Enforcement (SAFE) Act
    Legal Workforce Act
    Agricultural Guestworker Act
    Supplying Knowledge Based Immigrants and Lifting Levels of STEM Visas (SKILLS) Act



    3D, D'ing? You don't say? JC's dots easily connected: trump Russia collusion, PTAPE, racist tendency exposed (dots), JC posts a Hillary or Obama lie, misrepresentation, altered fact presented as reality (dots) and giggles in Comet Pizza's basement ( dots connected). See the pattern?
  • Thanks Obama!

    America's poverty rate fell to 12.7 percent, the lowest since 2007, the year before the financial crisis hit. The percent of Americans without health insurance for the entire year also dropped in 2016 to just 8.8 percent, the lowest ever, largely thanks to expanding coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

    "This is a really great report card on what the Obama administration accomplished," says Peter Atwater, president of Financial Insyghts.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/12/middle-class-income-hit-highest-level-on-record-in-2016-census-bureau-reports/?undefined=&utm_term=.43b9f84684b9&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,714
    Poverty rate at pre-recession levels and the lowest level of uninsured? This is problem best solved by repealing ACA, kicking people off Medicaid, and tax cuts for the rich. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,714
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    JC29856 said:

    Obama has picked private equity, hedge fund, venture capital and banking veterans to oversee his foundation, and an alumnus of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to advise him on investments.

    Northern Trust is a bank that specializes in wealth management for rich families and services for big funds. The event had gone unreported, but a program accessible on the firm’s website lists Obama alongside executives from Microsoft Corp., IBM and Michael Bloomberg, majority owner of Bloomberg LP.

    Northern Trust, based in Chicago, gave Obama a discount on a $1.32 million loan for a mansion in that city in 2005, after he was elected to the Senate, the Washington Post reported. The rate was changed to account for an offer from another lender, a spokesman for Obama said three years later. Doug Holt, a spokesman for Northern Trust, wouldn’t comment for this story.

    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    Bernie can only dream of commanding such speaking fees. Poor Bernie, he just keeps losing.
  • JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Obama has picked private equity, hedge fund, venture capital and banking veterans to oversee his foundation, and an alumnus of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to advise him on investments.

    Northern Trust is a bank that specializes in wealth management for rich families and services for big funds. The event had gone unreported, but a program accessible on the firm’s website lists Obama alongside executives from Microsoft Corp., IBM and Michael Bloomberg, majority owner of Bloomberg LP.

    Northern Trust, based in Chicago, gave Obama a discount on a $1.32 million loan for a mansion in that city in 2005, after he was elected to the Senate, the Washington Post reported. The rate was changed to account for an offer from another lender, a spokesman for Obama said three years later. Doug Holt, a spokesman for Northern Trust, wouldn’t comment for this story.

    Impeach, impeach, impeach! Bernie's wife's real estate deal particulars got you down this morning?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,714
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    So you're telling me Obama has always been a pretty middle of the road president and that continues in his life post-presidency? Gee, who knew?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,878
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:

    Obama has picked private equity, hedge fund, venture capital and banking veterans to oversee his foundation, and an alumnus of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. to advise him on investments.

    Northern Trust is a bank that specializes in wealth management for rich families and services for big funds. The event had gone unreported, but a program accessible on the firm’s website lists Obama alongside executives from Microsoft Corp., IBM and Michael Bloomberg, majority owner of Bloomberg LP.

    Northern Trust, based in Chicago, gave Obama a discount on a $1.32 million loan for a mansion in that city in 2005, after he was elected to the Senate, the Washington Post reported. The rate was changed to account for an offer from another lender, a spokesman for Obama said three years later. Doug Holt, a spokesman for Northern Trust, wouldn’t comment for this story.

    weren't there any Russian firms available to work for Obama?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    So you're telling me Obama has always been a pretty middle of the road president and that continues in his life post-presidency? Gee, who knew?
    No, Im saying that he was bought and sold by Wall Streeters since his community organizing.
    Nothing is more evident than being kind enough to let Froman choose his cabinet a month before the 2008 election (you probably didnt read the emails either). He was and is very friendly and charitable towards his friends and financiers, good for him. I cant hold anything against someone feeding their family with speech money.
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,714
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    So you're telling me Obama has always been a pretty middle of the road president and that continues in his life post-presidency? Gee, who knew?
    No, Im saying that he was bought and sold by Wall Streeters since his community organizing.
    Nothing is more evident than being kind enough to let Froman choose his cabinet a month before the 2008 election (you probably didnt read the emails either). He was and is very friendly and charitable towards his friends and financiers, good for him. I cant hold anything against someone feeding their family with speech money.
    I suppose I'm more curious about what motivates your criticism of Obama in amt?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Quite a contrast to trump's band of misfits. 
    most def

    Barack Obama spoke in New York to clients of Northern Trust Corp. for about $400,000, a person familiar with his appearance said. Last week, he reminisced about the White House for Carlyle Group LP, one of the world’s biggest private equity firms, according to two people who were there. Next week, he’ll give a keynote speech at investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald LP’s health-care conference.
    So you're telling me Obama has always been a pretty middle of the road president and that continues in his life post-presidency? Gee, who knew?
    No, Im saying that he was bought and sold by Wall Streeters since his community organizing.
    Nothing is more evident than being kind enough to let Froman choose his cabinet a month before the 2008 election (you probably didnt read the emails either). He was and is very friendly and charitable towards his friends and financiers, good for him. I cant hold anything against someone feeding their family with speech money.
    I suppose I'm more curious about what motivates your criticism of Obama in amt?
    Im generally critical of most presidents, their all shit. You want to see?
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
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