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Now that the dust has completely settled, what do you think of the new forums?

vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
edited October 2014 in The Porch
Okay folks, time to agitate the hive a little. Most of us know that the format of the PJ forums was completely revamped early this year. It was not well received. Many threatened to leave the forums and even the TC altogether. Some actually followed through on the threat.
But, it seems to me that most of the issues that people had were fixed over time and we now have a pretty damn good message board. Or do we? Thats what I hope to find out with this poll!

Now that the dust has completely settled, what do you think of the new forums? 94 votes

Get Right! The new format is an improvement over the old.
23%
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Grievance. The new format is worse than the old.
23%
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Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
53%
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    Get Right! The new format is an improvement over the old.
    Works great for me. Like it.
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,709
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    Like the new forum but I didn't dislike the old. Both work great for me
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    RKCNDYRKCNDY Seattle, WA Posts: 31,013
    I miss being able to "search users' posts"...like, I will remember a certain member that started a thread, but I don't remember the title, just some hilarious comment they made, and I can't find it easily anymore. image

    I like that the new board lets you embed YT videos and post larger pictures...but that's about it.
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,048
    just happy we still have a common place where we can all share our passions with each other. I fancy some aspects of the new boards and miss some from the old. At the end of the day, I'm just glad we are all still here
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    ItIsAllAboutPJItIsAllAboutPJ S.B., CA Posts: 829
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    elwayvedder said:

    just happy we still have a common place where we can all share our passions with each other. I fancy some aspects of the new boards and miss some from the old. At the end of the day, I'm just glad we are all still here

    +1
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    jlaustinjlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    ItIsAllAboutPJ said:

    elwayvedder said:

    just happy we still have a common place where we can all share our passions with each other. I fancy some aspects of the new boards and miss some from the old. At the end of the day, I'm just glad we are all still here

    +1

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    Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 722
    edited October 2014
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    I'm still partial to vB forums--vB3 was probably as good as message boards will ever get--but the real priority was having a user friendly forum again. I can live with what we have now, the change just could have been executed better.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,537
    edited October 2014
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    It's just fine. It is worse than the old forum, but indifference is the closest option for me. There are a few things that were better on the old forum - you could delete posts, you could edit PMs and see if sent ones had been read, and the constant email notifications are awful now (had to turn them off) - but for the most part, it's just fine. One thing i don't get is why the huge ugly sidebar is the default view. Why not make the view without the ridiculous sidebar the default? Because it's clearly the better view, and it is not obvious to newcomers how you get rid of it. But these are petty issues. The main point is who participates in the forums..... the new format sure drove a lot of people away. It surprises me how many felt so profoundly affected by a change in the appearance of a message board.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    But these are petty issues. The main point is who participates in the forums..... the new format sure drove a lot of people away. It surprises me how many felt so profoundly affected by a change in the appearance of a message board.

    Yes and yes! I'll admit it took me a bit getting used to but that was on this old dog.

    Works / used fine by me.

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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    There are certain improvements and there are certain things I miss having. But it works, and that's good enough for me!
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    PJ_Soul said:

    Why not make the view without the ridiculous sidebar the default? Because it's clearly the better view, and it is not obvious to newcomers how you get rid of it.

    I always forget to click on the grey bar that separates the two. But when I do, man what a difference.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Why not make the view without the ridiculous sidebar the default? Because it's clearly the better view, and it is not obvious to newcomers how you get rid of it.

    I always forget to click on the grey bar that separates the two. But when I do, man what a difference.
    Far from a newcomer and holy hell I never once even recognized this!! Mind = blown. (It's the little things in life, ya know?!)
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,157
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    this incarnation of the new board is better than the white page of death. it drove a lot of people away, and i think the community kind of suffers a bit as a result, but in the end the forum is about the people who use it and the community that we find within it. it is what we make it, and we get out of it what we want to get out of it.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    this incarnation of the new board is better than the white page of death. it drove a lot of people away, and i think the community kind of suffers a bit as a result, but in the end the forum is about the people who use it and the community that we find within it. it is what we make it, and we get out of it what we want to get out of it.

    And then some.

    I like the surprises, even if in hindsight.
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    steeler4lifesteeler4life Philadelphia area Posts: 405
    I always hear about how there was a big change in the format of the forums but I'm too new to have seen the difference. What was so different about them?
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    toandfortoandfor Posts: 2
    i remember being annoyed, but I honestly can't remember what the old version even looked like
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,278
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    I like this version, but I also liked the old version too. There isn't actually anything I miss about the old one (I hardly ever used PMs or searched other user's posts etc) but I understand why sites need to be updated/revamped. The only grievance I have is that the shitstorm of negativity that surrounded the initial change drove some people away; it could have been handled better
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    My whole thing with the "change drove people away" is that if a new look on the forum is enough to make people stop using it, those people have bigger problems in life than how a message board looks could ever fix.
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    Get Right! The new format is an improvement over the old.
    HesCalledDyer said:

    My whole thing with the "change drove people away" is that if a new look on the forum is enough to make people stop using it, those people have bigger problems in life than how a message board looks could ever fix.

    yeah, probably true
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    ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    meh.

    The embedded pix and video is the best part.
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,346
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    I still like the look of the old boards better, but it is all a question of getting used to it, I guess. I like that when you click a link now, it opens in another tab/page. I am thankful for the black background and the size of the font because the first version with the white and the tiny font was terrible. I like the implementation of pigger pic and video.
    I do not like that you cannot delete your post anymore. And that there is no little info list on whose birthday it is. And that the change drove so many away. But times, they are a-changing... And who wanted to stay in touch had possibilities to do so.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,537
    edited October 2014
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    HesCalledDyer said:

    My whole thing with the "change drove people away" is that if a new look on the forum is enough to make people stop using it, those people have bigger problems in life than how a message board looks could ever fix.

    Lol. Yeah, well i don't want to insult anyone who freaked out enough to leave and stop posting, but I definitely found it to be a huge and puzzling overreaction!
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    giventofly69giventofly69 Vancouver Posts: 849
    Grievance. The new format is worse than the old.
    I'm still running the greasemonkey script to view the forum. Not a big deal for me, but I do think it was better before.
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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Grievance. The new format is worse than the old.
    I still hate it. But fuck it, what else am I going to do?
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    musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,117
    Grievance. The new format is worse than the old.
    I dont like the new style. I saw no problems with the way the old forums were. I hardly ever visit this forum anymore, and the new style is the reason. Seems like this is a sentiment shared by many. The forum isn't as active in general, as it once was. And I think the change has alot to do with that.
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    Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 722
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    giventofly69 said:

    I'm still running the greasemonkey script to view the forum. Not a big deal for me, but I do think it was better before.

    Yesterday I was giving serious thought to updating the legacy script (the one that looks like the old boards with color coded thread icons). Is that something people would be interested in?
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    giventofly69giventofly69 Vancouver Posts: 849
    Grievance. The new format is worse than the old.
    Mike D88 said:

    giventofly69 said:

    I'm still running the greasemonkey script to view the forum. Not a big deal for me, but I do think it was better before.

    Yesterday I was giving serious thought to updating the legacy script (the one that looks like the old boards with color coded thread icons). Is that something people would be interested in?
    Oh hi there! Thank you so much for sharing these scripts, and I am so glad they still work with the 10C forum updates! I'm using the classic 10C Fix for Users With Eyes. Love that it removes the side bar that takes up so much space. Your work is much appreciated.

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    More people stayed than left sounds like.
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    TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,358
    Indifference. The new format is no better or no worse than the old.
    There are things with the new forum that annoy me. That being said, there were things with the old forum that annoyed me. There are also things about both that I like, so I guess I'm at a draw. Given my preference though, I like the old forum better.
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    edited October 2014
    Get Right! The new format is an improvement over the old.
    musicismylife78 said:

    I dont like the new style. I saw no problems with the way the old forums were. I hardly ever visit this forum anymore, and the new style is the reason. Seems like this is a sentiment shared by many. The forum isn't as active in general, as it once was. And I think the change has alot to do with that.

    if people really left because of the format change, thats truly a shame. I bet there are 10 members for every 1 that never visit the forums at all. I don't want to tell the TC how to conduct their affairs, but perhaps they could mention the forums in the monthly newsletter?
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