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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,122
    It's not a good sign that everyone has to carry a gun in order lower the crime rate. Or that you have to display a gun on your hip just to fill your car with gasoline because you live in a place nicknamed "Carjack City". Carrying a gun doesn't lower the crime rate. Renting a U-Haul and getting the fuck out of Dodge lowers the crime rate.
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    Stickman12Stickman12 Posts: 504
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms. The concept of a right to keep and bear arms existed within English common law long before the enactment of the Bill of Rights. Eighteenth century English jurist and judge Sir William Blackstone described this right as -
    a public allowance under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression

    In today's society, guns are demonized by media. The only coverage that makes the news is a bad guy who shoots innocent people. Rarely is the coverage of someone who was able to avoid being a victim because of a gun. A gun is a tool that can aid in self-preservation and resist violence and oppression. There are several laws already that deal with guns, the problem is that the are not being enforced. Police show up after a crime is committed, they rarely have the information necessary to stop a crime. Remember that guns are objects. Guns dont go to prison, guns dont take your money, guns dont break into your cars. Its the people who have these guns who need to be the focus of a real solution. If you were able to take all the guns out of the country, violent crime will still exist, but with a different tool. Guns have been a tool that has aided in a lot of good in this worlds history as well as a lot of bad and evil in the worlds history. The one common factor in both situations is that the people making the decisions with a gun determine the outcome. I agree that it is a sad state of affairs that more and more people have to conceal carry to "feel" safe or that someone needs to have a gun to protect their home and property from crime but the sad fact is that this is the world we live in today. If every person who owned a gun and obeyed the law were to surrender their gun, there is no doubt that violent crime would increase. Why??? Because those who disregard the law are the ones committing the crime. If there is no resistence, there will be no end. Dont attack peoples views, dont attack peoples opinions, attack those who remain silent while violating the safety and security of those who abide by the law and contribute to a better society.
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    ejleonjr said:

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms. The concept of a right to keep and bear arms existed within English common law long before the enactment of the Bill of Rights. Eighteenth century English jurist and judge Sir William Blackstone described this right as -
    a public allowance under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression

    In today's society, guns are demonized by media. The only coverage that makes the news is a bad guy who shoots innocent people. Rarely is the coverage of someone who was able to avoid being a victim because of a gun. A gun is a tool that can aid in self-preservation and resist violence and oppression. There are several laws already that deal with guns, the problem is that the are not being enforced. Police show up after a crime is committed, they rarely have the information necessary to stop a crime. Remember that guns are objects. Guns dont go to prison, guns dont take your money, guns dont break into your cars. Its the people who have these guns who need to be the focus of a real solution. If you were able to take all the guns out of the country, violent crime will still exist, but with a different tool. Guns have been a tool that has aided in a lot of good in this worlds history as well as a lot of bad and evil in the worlds history. The one common factor in both situations is that the people making the decisions with a gun determine the outcome. I agree that it is a sad state of affairs that more and more people have to conceal carry to "feel" safe or that someone needs to have a gun to protect their home and property from crime but the sad fact is that this is the world we live in today. If every person who owned a gun and obeyed the law were to surrender their gun, there is no doubt that violent crime would increase. Why??? Because those who disregard the law are the ones committing the crime. If there is no resistence, there will be no end. Dont attack peoples views, dont attack peoples opinions, attack those who remain silent while violating the safety and security of those who abide by the law and contribute to a better society.

    Well that was well done.I agree
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,946
    "WELL REGULATED" is the key wording....
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,676
    Gern Blansten said:

    "WELL REGULATED" is the key wording....

    " a public right UNDER DUE RESTRICTIONS"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Gern Blansten said:

    "WELL REGULATED" is the key wording....


    Here we go.......
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    A rational argument:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/opinion/nicholas-kristof-our-blind-spot-about-guns.html?_r=0

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,673
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    A rational argument:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/opinion/nicholas-kristof-our-blind-spot-about-guns.html?_r=0

    Peace.

    Now wait a dog gone minute. That's a sensible and rational argument. We'll have none of that here! Hahaha! No seriously, good article. Thanks!

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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Too funny!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    unsung said:

    Too funny!

    Hilarious.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,946
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    unsung said:

    Too funny!

    Hilarious.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check

    Peace.
    good stuff

    The NRA has done a fantastic job of representing gun and ammo manufacturers. It's funny to me that the people who are always concerned about being manipulated by the media are the ones being manipulated by the NRA's propaganda. I can't believe they bought it...

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,676
    nice touch. Promoting prescription drug use.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And of course that not the point of the photo but ok.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That link.

    I'm paraphrasing.

    No ccw holder has ever stopped a mass shooting.

    That must be one of the dumber things I've read from the anti-civil liberty side yet.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    unsung said:

    That link.

    I'm paraphrasing.

    No ccw holder has ever stopped a mass shooting.

    That must be one of the dumber things I've read from the anti-civil liberty side yet.

    If you're referencing the Mother Jones link, please point out where it mentions "ccw holder." Thanks.

    Peace.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,676
    unsung said:

    image

    awesome that it has a watermark. Checked it out. whatever the side, another emotion filled fear spreading BS slinging page.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    unsung said:

    That link.

    I'm paraphrasing.

    No ccw holder has ever stopped a mass shooting.

    That must be one of the dumber things I've read from the anti-civil liberty side yet.

    If you're referencing the Mother Jones link, please point out where it mentions "ccw holder." Thanks.

    Peace.


    Myth #4 and I said I was paraphrasing. Call it whatever you would like. It is a stupid statement that they are actually proving the opposite point that they want to.
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    mickeyrat said:

    unsung said:

    image

    awesome that it has a watermark. Checked it out. whatever the side, another emotion filled fear spreading BS slinging page.

    And of course, again, nothing that disproves the statement that it is conveying. Keep on with your scavenger hunt.

    A "grassroots" group that is funded by a multi-billionaire, and people fall for it.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,575
    unsung said:

    That link.

    I'm paraphrasing.

    No ccw holder has ever stopped a mass shooting.

    That must be one of the dumber things I've read from the anti-civil liberty side yet.

    Way too funny! "Call it whatever you want." So says the guy who couldn't take me seriously because I used the term "clip" instead of "magazine" in reference to ammunition capacity for firearms. Seriously? That's all you have? Where's your multiple data sources to back up the opposite of myth #4? You know the NRA or Brietbart or HASOGCA link pointing to all the instances of a civilian with a firearm drawing a bead and taking out the active shooter in a mass shooting incident. Surely in the last 30 years there has to be a few you can mention and link to, yes? And they don't even have to be a ccw holder. I'll accept a gang banger with an illegally obtained fire arm reference. Too f-ing funny, ha, ha, ha,ha,ha! Anti-civil liberty! That's precious!

    People fall for the Koch Brothers' masquerades all the time, including Rand. To each their own I guess.

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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The doctor last week.

    Yawn. Next.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah, ok. Rolling my eyes.

    Just when I thought that the anti side couldn't top themselves with stupid statements, they go and do it again.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/politics/brady-death-homicide/index.html
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,676
    unsung said:

    Yeah, ok. Rolling my eyes.

    Just when I thought that the anti side couldn't top themselves with stupid statements, they go and do it again.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/politics/brady-death-homicide/index.html

    Oh, so you have read or heard speeches by this coroner that he is anti gun?
    True at 73 it was possible( at any time really) to die of natural causes , but is it really out of the realm of possibility that whatever Mr Brady had been enduring through as a result of getting shot in the head was a contributing factor in what his family described as "health issues" and therefore rightly deemed a homocide given HE WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD?
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    edited August 2014
    For those that complain about Citizens United and how it favors the Koch brothers.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/12/gun-fight-bloomberg-nra-spend-thousands-on-local-milwaukee-co-sheriff-race/

    Bloomberg also spent nearly $2.2M on a Congressional race in Illinois last year.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/robin-kelly-illinois-election_n_2770721.html



    And they keep trying to fool people by telling them that his groups are grassroots.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,946
    http://www.kens5.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/virginia-deputy-shoots-daughter-mistaken-for-intruder/14086355/
    A Virginia sheriff's deputy mistook his 16-year-old daughter for an intruder early Tuesday and shot her as she sneaked back into their home, authorities say.

    After alerting 911, the deputy then crashed his car while racing her to the hospital, and emergency responders finished transporting her for treatment at Winchester Medical Center, the Frederick County Sheriff's Office told WHAG-TV.

    The teen was shot once in her torso and was listed in stable condition Thursday. She suffered no additional injuries when her father, Loudoun County Sheriff's Deputy Easton McDonald, hit a barricade.
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.kens5.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/virginia-deputy-shoots-daughter-mistaken-for-intruder/14086355/

    A Virginia sheriff's deputy mistook his 16-year-old daughter for an intruder early Tuesday and shot her as she sneaked back into their home, authorities say.

    After alerting 911, the deputy then crashed his car while racing her to the hospital, and emergency responders finished transporting her for treatment at Winchester Medical Center, the Frederick County Sheriff's Office told WHAG-TV.

    The teen was shot once in her torso and was listed in stable condition Thursday. She suffered no additional injuries when her father, Loudoun County Sheriff's Deputy Easton McDonald, hit a barricade.
    Glad he didn't kill her.
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    It's very simple and irrefutable: more guns= more deaths by guns.
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    callencallen Posts: 6,388

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?c=homepage-t

    Let's take little Suzie to fire an Uzi. Yeah great idea.
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    fifefife Posts: 3,327
    callen said:


    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?c=homepage-t

    Let's take little Suzie to fire an Uzi. Yeah great idea.

    first off i would blame the instructor for being an idiot and I would take the kid away from her parents cause they are idiots too. what person (not just a 7 year old child) need to practice with an uzi.

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,946
    I can't believe how stupid people are. Tragic but how in the hell does a 9 year old with an Uzi benefit anything/anyone?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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