America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 16,095
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Reading through the thread, I was going to post “just wait for the Australia isn’t the US comment”, but lo and behold it’s already here. I guess we just have to do nothing, because no other country is the US. 
     Well it
    Well it is not the same. Apples to oranges. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 8,757
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Reading through the thread, I was going to post “just wait for the Australia isn’t the US comment”, but lo and behold it’s already here. I guess we just have to do nothing, because no other country is the US. 
     Well it
    Well it is not the same. Apples to oranges. 
    If you want them to be, to push your agenda I guess.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,395
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Reading through the thread, I was going to post “just wait for the Australia isn’t the US comment”, but lo and behold it’s already here. I guess we just have to do nothing, because no other country is the US. 
     Well it
    Well it is not the same. Apples to oranges. 

    "Not the same" is such an incredibly weak argument used to dismiss an action that has proven successful elsewhere. Of course the two countries are not the same; when are two situations ever exactly the same? And yet we take examples from elsewhere and apply them to our own situations every day, often with success, especially when we take the time to put some effort in. Are you really going to try to argue that the US has never modeled legislation after another country before?
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  • mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Australia isn't the U.S. (600,000 weapons were bought back as compared to tens (?) of millions in the u.s.)  

    So you're saying sweeping gun control measures would do nothing? Absolutely nothing?

    Come on, man.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,833
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Australia isn't the U.S. (600,000 weapons were bought back as compared to tens (?) of millions in the u.s.)  

    So you're saying sweeping gun control measures would do nothing? Absolutely nothing?

    Come on, man.
    Tariffs are too high and we're out of brooms so no sweeping here. There are lots of thoughts being...thought? I'm sure the solution is right around the corner...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dignindignin Posts: 6,402
    Gun nuts.

    Sacha Baron Cohen Fools Republicans Into Filming Ad About Arming Toddlers - HuffPost https://apple.news/AyXr8SIbKT7SJ2mr_p9dMAQ
    Jesus.


  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 16,095
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Australia isn't the U.S. (600,000 weapons were bought back as compared to tens (?) of millions in the u.s.)  

    So you're saying sweeping gun control measures would do nothing? Absolutely nothing?

    Come on, man.
    No I was talking about gun buybacks. How do you do it on that scale?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 4,082
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Australia isn't the U.S. (600,000 weapons were bought back as compared to tens (?) of millions in the u.s.)  

    So you're saying sweeping gun control measures would do nothing? Absolutely nothing?

    Come on, man.
    No I was talking about gun buybacks. How do you do it on that scale?

    Hasn’t even been successful on a small scale where it has been tried in the US.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,694
    dignin said:
    Gun nuts.

    Sacha Baron Cohen Fools Republicans Into Filming Ad About Arming Toddlers - HuffPost https://apple.news/AyXr8SIbKT7SJ2mr_p9dMAQ
    Jesus.


    Happy shooting, Kids!

    Isn't it great to have such bright and conscientious leaders in our Senate and across the land!  I will feel so much safer when preschoolers are armed.  God Bless our armed children.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 12,015
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    tbergs said:
    Well, some on here would just write that 5 year old death off as the reality of stupid people existing amongst our 325 million population. Just nothing you can do about it. Guns are essential in every day life. Children are expendable youth. 
    Maybe if you click your heals three times all guns will magically disappear!
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?via=gdpr-consent

    Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.
    Reading through the thread, I was going to post “just wait for the Australia isn’t the US comment”, but lo and behold it’s already here. I guess we just have to do nothing, because no other country is the US. 
     Well it
    Well it is not the same. Apples to oranges. 
    Apple, oranges, blah blah blah.  They're both fruit.  There is just an abundance of one more than the other.  Doesn't mean we should continue to do NOTHING about the apples because the US has more of them than Australia had oranges.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,850
    I think she may have been the first to float the armed toddlers theory so when Sasha came along, it wasn’t wholly unreasonable to some. It’s what a lack of critical thought will get you.
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 1,724
    AMT: "No one is saying they want to take your guns."

    AMT: "We should try mandatory gun confiscation, it worked in Australia."

    AMT: "I own guns but I would support meaningful measures such as universal background checks, mandatory training requirements and registration."

    AMT: "Nothing can be done. Gun owners are paranoid rednecks. You all have blood on your hands!" Nothing can be done."

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,606
    dudeman said:
    AMT: "No one is saying they want to take your guns."

    AMT: "We should try mandatory gun confiscation, it worked in Australia."

    AMT: "I own guns but I would support meaningful measures such as universal background checks, mandatory training requirements and registration."

    AMT: "Nothing can be done. Gun owners are paranoid rednecks. You all have blood on your hands!" Nothing can be done."

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,634
    Hi

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,634
    edited July 17
    Oh, hi Sheriff Clarke! Hey who is that woman to your right? The young Russian red head who has her arm wrapped in yours?



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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,283
    Oh, hi Sheriff Clarke! Hey who is that woman to your right? The young Russian red head who has her arm wrapped in yours?



    Remember  when Russia was the enemy and commies were the bad guys?
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    Just saw the Sacha Baron Cohen video, omg what a legend lol
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,206
    Oh, hi Sheriff Clarke! Hey who is that woman to your right? The young Russian red head who has her arm wrapped in yours?



    Remember  when Russia was the enemy and commies were the bad guys?
    I remember when England was too.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,395
    unsung said:
    Oh, hi Sheriff Clarke! Hey who is that woman to your right? The young Russian red head who has her arm wrapped in yours?



    Remember  when Russia was the enemy and commies were the bad guys?
    I remember when England was too.

    You were alive in the 1780s? No wonder you're so grumpy ;)
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 12,015

    unsung said:
    Oh, hi Sheriff Clarke! Hey who is that woman to your right? The young Russian red head who has her arm wrapped in yours?



    Remember  when Russia was the enemy and commies were the bad guys?
    I remember when England was too.
    You do?  Damn, you're old!
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,206
    Someone already stole your originality.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,850
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  • Depressing stories full of stupidity.

    A member of the well-armed militia agrees to pay another driver $1000 for the damages he caused in an accident... then changes his mind and kills the other driver.

    Like... wtf, man? Really? Really? You though that was the solution to your problem?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,850
    Only in ‘murica, where “responsible” gun owners are until they’re not.

    California girl, 2, accidentally shot and killed by boy, 4 - ABC News https://apple.news/AKBkMgIxlS72aAvKQHQvxNQ
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,740
    Bush’s former doctor shot and killed while riding bike in Houston

    The suspect was on a bicycle as well. Rode past the doctor, turned and fired two shots. The doctor immediately went down.

    Authorities late Friday continued searching for the suspect, who was wearing a gray warmup jacket, khaki shorts and a tan baseball cap.

    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/811201002
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,850
    Over a fucking parking spot. So very “responsible.”

    ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law Protects Shooter In Fatal Fight Over Handicapped Parking Space - Newsweek https://apple.news/A227Pw3EBSIOd7tsr6rT5Fw
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