66% favor gun restrictions yet our government fails to act on the will of the people.
Kids marching to the state Capitol and the tone deaf legislature won’t vote on gun restrictions.
Who exactly are our representatives representing?????????
The highest bidder. For purposes of this thread, the NRA. For healthcare threads, Big Pharma and Insurers. Etc.... Most certainly don't represent the people they claim to be serving.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Damn, pretty sure grenades and land mines are illegal and very hard to obtain though, right?
Do you think he would’ve killed more people with an AR15 or with a grenade?
Idk, what are your thoughts? He was obviously able to obtain both...regardless of their legality.
I'd say he'd probably kill a shit load of people with that assault rifle...crazy how he apparently purchased it with that intent, huh?
Fark me, I can't see why there is resistance to making weapons (semi auto weapons) ,that are only designed to KILL, not attainable to the general public. What possible reason does anyone have to want or need one of these. I don't give a fuck about anyone's right to have a weapon, other people's rights to live FAR outweigh that.
I am not saying ban all guns, but better and far more rigid checks are required, includes health updated etc, for anyone wanting any other weapon
Lots of people more than happy to say "it's impossible" , it's too hard", "it will never work", "more guns". Well how about giving it a fucking go? If it takes 10 years to change it, then it takes 10 years. Imagine if it was started 10 years ago, maybe this doesn't happen now. If banning these semi automatic weapons stops 1 shooting, it's done something.
Yes, there is other stuff that absolutely needs to be looked at as well. Far better checks and balances before anyone can get their hands on a gun, a lot more support in Mental Health issues, plus more. But more weapons is not the answer!!
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
So, it's all a conspiracy? Student was planted in the school by left wing nuts to push an agenda. It's hard to bite my tongue when you post on here.
Not what I said. People being interviewed sure seem to be having fun.
Then maybe find a way to say something without promoting right wing conspiracies.
So you don't have any changes to our gun policies to suggest, but you're an expert on grief management and timelines for smiling based on the little you know about any of the teenagers speaking out against gun violence. Seems like the reasonable thing to be thinking about right now.
So, it's all a conspiracy? Student was planted in the school by left wing nuts to push an agenda. It's hard to bite my tongue when you post on here.
Not what I said. People being interviewed sure seem to be having fun.
Dude - you are just being a jerk. Well worse than that, but I don’t feel like getting banned.
instead of your shitty ass snide comments after 17 people died...mostly kids.... why don’t you either post a reasonable argument or just go elsewhere and rail on about the corrupt fed
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Conspiracy theorists and their theories are always good for a laugh.
Idiots
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I actually have offered a solution but none of you seems willing to respond.
I said to have a guard. I said that maybe there is a connection to a possible over medication of these kids.
The replies come back with well they'd be the first to get shot, how now I want a police state, how lets arm the pre-schoolers, how the teachers should teach, how we'd have kids going into a prison, etc.
You all suggest that the NRA is paying off politicians but won't even begin to acknowledge that the pharmaceutical industry could be doing the same thing.
Your solution is to ban a type of weapon. You celebrate these idiots that think they are going to save the world by destroying their own property. It is stupid.
You offer a gun ban, but you really aren't against guns. You tell me Trump is Hitler but want him to be the one in control of these guns. Why would I let Hitler disarm me?
I used to be member of the NRA but I quit some time ago. Why? Because the NRA doesn't fight for gun rights. If we had true gun rights we wouldn't need the NRA. I have personally been involved with gun rights groups that had the NRA working againat them. But none of you see that. The NRA only cares about the NRA. I wouldn't give them another dime.
Gun free zones kill. Signs don't work. Killers don't stop at signs. Ban this gun, doesn't matter, they still will kill if unchallenged. Have a guard there, they think twice. Have a guard there and maybe a spree stops sooner. I don't want to see people hurt. I believe in the NAP. It angers me that this happens but bad people do bad things.
We protect the President, your money at a bank, an airport, football games, power plants, chemical plants, personal property, train stations, etc with security.
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
I actually have offered a solution but none of you seems willing to respond.
I said to have a guard. I said that maybe there is a connection to a possible over medication of these kids.
The replies come back with well they'd be the first to get shot, how now I want a police state, how lets arm the pre-schoolers, how the teachers should teach, how we'd have kids going into a prison, etc.
You all suggest that the NRA is paying off politicians but won't even begin to acknowledge that the pharmaceutical industry could be doing the same thing.
Your solution is to ban a type of weapon. You celebrate these idiots that think they are going to save the world by destroying their own property. It is stupid.
You offer a gun ban, but you really aren't against guns. You tell me Trump is Hitler but want him to be the one in control of these guns. Why would I let Hitler disarm me?
I used to be member of the NRA but I quit some time ago. Why? Because the NRA doesn't fight for gun rights. If we had true gun rights we wouldn't need the NRA. I have personally been involved with gun rights groups that had the NRA working againat them. But none of you see that. The NRA only cares about the NRA. I wouldn't give them another dime.
Gun free zones kill. Signs don't work. Killers don't stop at signs. Ban this gun, doesn't matter, they still will kill if unchallenged. Have a guard there, they think twice. Have a guard there and maybe a spree stops sooner. I don't want to see people hurt. I believe in the NAP. It angers me that this happens but bad people do bad things.
We protect the President, your money at a bank, an airport, football games, power plants, chemical plants, personal property, train stations, etc with security.
We protect kids with signs. It is wrong.
Where’s your evidence of a link between medication and gun violence?
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
Could't agree more.
Some think because it will take time to change, it's too hard, which is complete BS. Start the change as soon as you can
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
Cincy in what capacity are we limiting ammunition?
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
I actually have offered a solution but none of you seems willing to respond.
I said to have a guard. I said that maybe there is a connection to a possible over medication of these kids.
The replies come back with well they'd be the first to get shot, how now I want a police state, how lets arm the pre-schoolers, how the teachers should teach, how we'd have kids going into a prison, etc.
You all suggest that the NRA is paying off politicians but won't even begin to acknowledge that the pharmaceutical industry could be doing the same thing.
Your solution is to ban a type of weapon. You celebrate these idiots that think they are going to save the world by destroying their own property. It is stupid.
You offer a gun ban, but you really aren't against guns. You tell me Trump is Hitler but want him to be the one in control of these guns. Why would I let Hitler disarm me?
I used to be member of the NRA but I quit some time ago. Why? Because the NRA doesn't fight for gun rights. If we had true gun rights we wouldn't need the NRA. I have personally been involved with gun rights groups that had the NRA working againat them. But none of you see that. The NRA only cares about the NRA. I wouldn't give them another dime.
Gun free zones kill. Signs don't work. Killers don't stop at signs. Ban this gun, doesn't matter, they still will kill if unchallenged. Have a guard there, they think twice. Have a guard there and maybe a spree stops sooner. I don't want to see people hurt. I believe in the NAP. It angers me that this happens but bad people do bad things.
We protect the President, your money at a bank, an airport, football games, power plants, chemical plants, personal property, train stations, etc with security.
We protect kids with signs. It is wrong.
Where’s your evidence of a link between medication and gun violence?
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I didn't say I had evidence. I asked if anyone was willing to look into it as a possibility. This is why these threads are so tiring. Everything is argued, words twisted, I take time to make a reply and apparenlt asking a question now means I have irrefutable evidence to the point. No, that was why it was formed as a question.
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I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
I am on board with 4. 3 would have to be a State thing for me to support. 4 even pushes those lines.
I actually have offered a solution but none of you seems willing to respond.
I said to have a guard. I said that maybe there is a connection to a possible over medication of these kids.
The replies come back with well they'd be the first to get shot, how now I want a police state, how lets arm the pre-schoolers, how the teachers should teach, how we'd have kids going into a prison, etc.
You all suggest that the NRA is paying off politicians but won't even begin to acknowledge that the pharmaceutical industry could be doing the same thing.
Your solution is to ban a type of weapon. You celebrate these idiots that think they are going to save the world by destroying their own property. It is stupid.
You offer a gun ban, but you really aren't against guns. You tell me Trump is Hitler but want him to be the one in control of these guns. Why would I let Hitler disarm me?
I used to be member of the NRA but I quit some time ago. Why? Because the NRA doesn't fight for gun rights. If we had true gun rights we wouldn't need the NRA. I have personally been involved with gun rights groups that had the NRA working againat them. But none of you see that. The NRA only cares about the NRA. I wouldn't give them another dime.
Gun free zones kill. Signs don't work. Killers don't stop at signs. Ban this gun, doesn't matter, they still will kill if unchallenged. Have a guard there, they think twice. Have a guard there and maybe a spree stops sooner. I don't want to see people hurt. I believe in the NAP. It angers me that this happens but bad people do bad things.
We protect the President, your money at a bank, an airport, football games, power plants, chemical plants, personal property, train stations, etc with security.
We protect kids with signs. It is wrong.
Seriously? You're solution to gun violence is to have a guard? Does everyone get a personal bodyguard? This is the best you have? Maybe let the adults sort this one out, you're embarrassing yourself.
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I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
I am on board with 4. 3 would have to be a State thing for me to support. 4 even pushes those lines.
So I give up AR's what do I get in return?
You get a safer society.
If you gave up your AR15 and one public mass shooting was erased from destiny's path... would you do it?
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I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
You are assuming all anyone wants is a gun ban. not true. But it’s part of the solution. And I’m tired of people just completely ignoring it as a possibility.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons 2) limit ammunition 3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools) 4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection. 5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
I am on board with 4. 3 would have to be a State thing for me to support. 4 even pushes those lines.
So I give up AR's what do I get in return?
You either own it for your lifetime without possibility of sale or a buyback program for fair market value.
It's a hopeless situation...
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Safer society? That is really rich. Go disarm the gangs first. Then tell me about society being safe.
Safer society? That is really rich. Go disarm the gangs first. Then tell me about society being safe.
You don't need to disarm. Why are you focusing on that when rational points about limiting mag capacity and banning only a certain weapon (semi auto rifles) are being offered.
I don't even care if there is no ban on any gun as long as we lower mag capacity to 5. And then everything else not related to just gun control that's been mentioned.
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I am not saying ban all guns, but better and far more rigid checks are required, includes health updated etc, for anyone wanting any other weapon
Lots of people more than happy to say "it's impossible" , it's too hard", "it will never work", "more guns". Well how about giving it a fucking go?
If it takes 10 years to change it, then it takes 10 years. Imagine if it was started 10 years ago, maybe this doesn't happen now. If banning these semi automatic weapons stops 1 shooting, it's done something.
Yes, there is other stuff that absolutely needs to be looked at as well. Far better checks and balances before anyone can get their hands on a gun, a lot more support in Mental Health issues, plus more. But more weapons is not the answer!!
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
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So you don't have any changes to our gun policies to suggest, but you're an expert on grief management and timelines for smiling based on the little you know about any of the teenagers speaking out against gun violence. Seems like the reasonable thing to be thinking about right now.
instead of your shitty ass snide comments after 17 people died...mostly kids.... why don’t you either post a reasonable argument or just go elsewhere and rail on about the corrupt fed
The fact that you just put up the picture without the source speaks volumes. Ashamed to admit which weirdo conspiracy outlet you subscribe too, eh?
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Idiots
I said to have a guard. I said that maybe there is a connection to a possible over medication of these kids.
The replies come back with well they'd be the first to get shot, how now I want a police state, how lets arm the pre-schoolers, how the teachers should teach, how we'd have kids going into a prison, etc.
You all suggest that the NRA is paying off politicians but won't even begin to acknowledge that the pharmaceutical industry could be doing the same thing.
Your solution is to ban a type of weapon. You celebrate these idiots that think they are going to save the world by destroying their own property. It is stupid.
You offer a gun ban, but you really aren't against guns. You tell me Trump is Hitler but want him to be the one in control of these guns. Why would I let Hitler disarm me?
I used to be member of the NRA but I quit some time ago. Why? Because the NRA doesn't fight for gun rights. If we had true gun rights we wouldn't need the NRA. I have personally been involved with gun rights groups that had the NRA working againat them. But none of you see that. The NRA only cares about the NRA. I wouldn't give them another dime.
Gun free zones kill. Signs don't work. Killers don't stop at signs. Ban this gun, doesn't matter, they still will kill if unchallenged. Have a guard there, they think twice. Have a guard there and maybe a spree stops sooner. I don't want to see people hurt. I believe in the NAP. It angers me that this happens but bad people do bad things.
We protect the President, your money at a bank, an airport, football games, power plants, chemical plants, personal property, train stations, etc with security.
We protect kids with signs. It is wrong.
people keep saying criminals don’t obey the law so it won’t help. Then do you lock your car? How about your house? Burglary is already against the law so why do you want other protections? It’s a dumbass argument.
1) Ban assault weapons
2) limit ammunition
3) increase funding for mental health (including a robust program in schools)
4) Beef up security in sensitive targets (like schools) with armed security guards and metal detection.
5) Recalibrate the gun culture —— this is difficult but must start. You aren’t tough if you have a gun, just like you aren’t y’all if you own stilts. I can come up with options here... but you won’t like them either
Despite what the talking heads tell you this problem isn’t that hard to understand and fix. It just takes the stomach to make it happen. And it takes time to have a large effect. But we can make some gains quickly if we actually choose to do ANYTHING.
Some think because it will take time to change, it's too hard, which is complete BS. Start the change as soon as you can
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
So I give up AR's what do I get in return?
Seriously? You're solution to gun violence is to have a guard? Does everyone get a personal bodyguard? This is the best you have? Maybe let the adults sort this one out, you're embarrassing yourself.
You get a safer society.
If you gave up your AR15 and one public mass shooting was erased from destiny's path... would you do it?
I will not give up Liberty for perceived safety.