America's Gun Violence

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,965
    dudeman said:
    At least no one was injured or killed. This could have been much worse. As such, maybe this belongs in the Idiot Thread instead of here. 
    I think it belongs here because this is what we get with easy access to guns and the resulting proliferation.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 482
    dudeman said:
    At least no one was injured or killed. This could have been much worse. As such, maybe this belongs in the Idiot Thread instead of here. 
    I think it belongs here because this is what we get with easy access to guns and the resulting proliferation.
    Agreed.  What he did was part of gun culture.  Sometimes gun incidents end like this.  Other times, someone gets shot.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    This is ridiculous. Thankfully no one was hurt. This almost belongs in the idiot thread.

    http://www.twincities.com/2017/08/03/armed-man-chases-kids-football-team-at-st-paul-rec-center-police-say/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,095
    wasn't sure where to put this, didn't feel like starting a new thread

    a couple interesting recent rulings I think reflect how screwed up America's priorities are right now

    I-94 protesters plead guilty before sympathetic judge

    4 defendants acquitted in Nevada Bundy standoff
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,006
    Guns don't kill people

    Gun owners kill people......


    At Least 7 People Fatally Shot In Dallas Suburb; Officer Kills Suspect 
  • ShynerShyner Posts: 787
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,433
    Shyner said:
    Guns are bad. 
    Animals = humans
    Don't kill anything

    If shooting a gun gets you off
    You don't deserve to have one

    Some of u don't understand because of your instillment. 

    Honestly i see no reason to shoot metal at a target. You have to sacrifice luxuries to ensure
    Protection for women and children. 

    Guns kill , gun owners kill. You don't need toys. 
    Grow a pair and smell the air. 
    Nice well thought out intelligent post. (Insert sarcasm)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,485
    edited September 13
    Yes, and I'm really surprised this didn't receive in Canada (i.e. enough for it to have been mentioned in the regular news broadcasts that I see). Usually a horrifying mass shooting like this in the US gets at least some coverage up here.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,835
    Isn't Texas an open carry state?

    I thought that made everybody safer?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,095
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    Yes, and I'm really surprised this didn't receive in Canada (i.e. enough for it to have been mentioned in the regular news broadcasts that I see). Usually a horrifying mass shooting like this in the US gets at least some coverage up here.
    Par for the course.

    They happen all the time there. A way of life.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,876
    edited September 13
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,485
    PJ_Soul said:
    Yes, and I'm really surprised this didn't receive in Canada (i.e. enough for it to have been mentioned in the regular news broadcasts that I see). Usually a horrifying mass shooting like this in the US gets at least some coverage up here.
    Par for the course.

    They happen all the time there. A way of life.
    I know. I'm just saying I'm surprised this one wasn't covered, since they usually are.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,095
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,876
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Seems like you assumed a lot of things here...
    "At least I'm housebroken"
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,095
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,876
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Is that the summarily murdered black man?  I think I am hearing a few crickets chirping...
    "At least I'm housebroken"
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
    Hmm, I don't know if there were any gun owners/carriers among the victims. If a few did have a gun, odds are there wouldn't be 8 dead.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,095
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
    Hmm, I don't know if there were any gun owners/carriers among the victims. If a few did have a gun, odds are there wouldn't be 8 dead.
    "Multiple firearms of different types were recovered at the scene, the chief said."
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
    Hmm, I don't know if there were any gun owners/carriers among the victims. If a few did have a gun, odds are there wouldn't be 8 dead.
    "Multiple firearms of different types were recovered at the scene, the chief said."
    Yeah, pretty sure they are referring to the guns the shooter used. I have yet to see otherwise.

    "Investigators said the gunman arrived at his former home Sunday at about 8 p.m., armed with multiple weapons. The man then went on a rampage, shooting nine people, seven fatally, inside the home and in the back yard, before being fatally shot by a Plano police officer."
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 1,649
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    Did I misread that, or did you call the cop a murderer for shooting a guy who just killed 8 people? A guy who was still armed, and with wounded victims who needed help?
    Seriously? They should let him kill everyone else too and then hope he surrenders peacefully? 
    Comments like that make it very difficult to take criticism of police seriously.
  • dignindignin Posts: 5,284
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
    Hmm, I don't know if there were any gun owners/carriers among the victims. If a few did have a gun, odds are there wouldn't be 8 dead.
    Okay, I will bite...what are these odds you speak of?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 1,649
    As others said, not to mention its a little racist to assume the guy killing 8 people is black, but go ahead and accuse the police of racism. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,925
    dignin said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Once again - police act as judge, jury and executioner; summarily murdering another black man without due process.
    How ironic that you are condemning the police and calling it a "murder" without due process.  Where in the article does it even mention the race of the asshole?  Why do you not condemn the person that shot 8 people?  You are being ridiculous...
    ...I just assumed bc he wasn't taken alive...
    Well, you know, ASSumptions....
    Well it's just a shame there weren't anymore guns in the house. Bc as we all know. More guns = more safety!
    Hmm, I don't know if there were any gun owners/carriers among the victims. If a few did have a gun, odds are there wouldn't be 8 dead.
    Okay, I will bite...what are these odds you speak of?
    I don't know the odds specifically of course. Using rational thinking, if any of the 8 were armed there would be a higher chance of survival and they could defend themselves against someone else with a gun. It also means they could all still die, which is the worst case scenario we are already dealing with. I am not a gun advocate or supporter, but this only makes sense.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,485
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