America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,739
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    You mean like David Koresh and the Weavers?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 8,062
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    You mean like David Koresh and the Weavers?
    No MOVE was much worse.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,739
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    What was misleading about my post?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 8,062
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    What was misleading about my post?
    You make it seem like an unprovoked bombing of innocent citizens.

    let me guess you support Mumia too?
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,490
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    I don't think it was clear from the start, but I 100% agree that the NRA has become a far right, white nationalist group. Their Phlando Castile non-reaction was heard loud and clear. The NRA used to be a hunting and shooting sports advocacy group, but what they were bears no resemblance to what they are now. I was an NRA member back in the 80's, but bailed on them a couple of decades ago. They are strictly a political lobbying group, and these days exist to pump money into far right candidates and causes. It is beyond me how a 2nd Amendment group could not be outraged and furious about the police shooting a law abiding, legally gun carrying citizen who was licensed to carry, informed the officer he was carrying, and complied with the officer's commands.  There is no doubt in my mind that if Philando Castile was a white guy the NRA would have made some noise, and offered support to the guy's family. Instead we get crickets.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 6,033
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 431
    jeffbr said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    I don't think it was clear from the start, but I 100% agree that the NRA has become a far right, white nationalist group. Their Phlando Castile non-reaction was heard loud and clear. The NRA used to be a hunting and shooting sports advocacy group, but what they were bears no resemblance to what they are now. I was an NRA member back in the 80's, but bailed on them a couple of decades ago. They are strictly a political lobbying group, and these days exist to pump money into far right candidates and causes. It is beyond me how a 2nd Amendment group could not be outraged and furious about the police shooting a law abiding, legally gun carrying citizen who was licensed to carry, informed the officer he was carrying, and complied with the officer's commands.  There is no doubt in my mind that if Philando Castile was a white guy the NRA would have made some noise, and offered support to the guy's family. Instead we get crickets.
    And they were never a "civil rights organization."  The 2nd Amendment was the best thing that ever happened to them, but they are a trade association.  They try to sell guns.  

    But yeah, now they are a full-blown White Nationalist group.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,739
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    What was misleading about my post?
    You make it seem like an unprovoked bombing of innocent citizens.

    let me guess you support Mumia too?
    David Koresh and the Weavers are different how?

    Let me guess, you supported Timothy McVeigh too?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 8,062
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    What was misleading about my post?
    You make it seem like an unprovoked bombing of innocent citizens.

    let me guess you support Mumia too?
    David Koresh and the Weavers are different how?

    Let me guess, you supported Timothy McVeigh too?
    no i don't support criminals and killers.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,739
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Before Waco and  before Ruby Ridge there was the state sanctioned bombing of the MOVE headquarters in Philadelphia in which 11 people died. I wonder why you paranoid extreme gun rights advocates and libertarians never cite it when deploring government malfeasance and oppression?
    read up on the MOVE story instead of just putting a misleading headline out there.  There was way more to the story than just a state sanction bombing. they were as culpable in the incident as the police.
    What was misleading about my post?
    You make it seem like an unprovoked bombing of innocent citizens.

    let me guess you support Mumia too?
    David Koresh and the Weavers are different how?

    Let me guess, you supported Timothy McVeigh too?
    no i don't support criminals and killers.
    Funny, neither do I.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,608
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,876
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,608
    edited June 30
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.                




                                   
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,714
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    That's fucking ridiculous

    Snowflakes afraid of a few protests? Lol 
    Is that what you call burning buildings, protests?  Sounds like she is just calling to fight fire with fire.  These "protesters" may want to read up on the Castle Doctrine a bit.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

    People who obsess about home invasion and have unhealthy vigilante fantasies may want to read up on it, too.                         

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,749
    edited June 30
    dignin said:
    Disturbing as fuck.
    Is everyone still convinced that some kind of civil war or something isn't coming in America? I'm really having trouble imagining where things are going, but I just don't see them getting better anytime soon. I only see them getting much, much, much worse, with the kind of anger and division that is being grown by the currently government and its lobbyists. And btw, I don't see the left being the catalyst of such things. If shit goes down, it will be the growing alt-right that stirs shit up... starting with fucking twitter ads like this one by the NRA, which is obviously an alt-right organization now.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,098
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.                




                                   
    Your response is not surprising given your extremist stance. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,608
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    dignin said:
    That's fucking ridiculous

    Snowflakes afraid of a few protests? Lol 
    Is that what you call burning buildings, protests?  Sounds like she is just calling to fight fire with fire.  These "protesters" may want to read up on the Castle Doctrine a bit.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

    People who obsess about home invasion and have unhealthy vigilante fantasies may want to read up on it, too.                         

    Most definitely, everyone should be aware of the laws surrounding gun ownership and self-defense.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,608
    dignin said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    CM189191 said:
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.                




                                   
    Your response is not surprising given your extremist stance. 
    Haha, if my stance is extremist, then there are some super duper hecka extremists out there that totally overshadow my so called extremism.  Not agreeing with you does not equal extremism...unless you are on the far extreme of the other side...such as the Antifa lunatics.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,876
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others. There's a yawning chasm between triggering and provoking someone. If the NRA is dog-whistling for violence based on race & political views, they're toeing the line of hate crime / terroristic threats. No surprise coming from an organization with a symbiotic relationship with terrorists like the oath keepers, michigan militia, 3%s. The Right continues to try to drag the Left down to it's level.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,608
    CM189191 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.
    There's a yawning chasm between triggering and provoking someone. If the NRA is dog-whistling for violence based on race & political views, they're toeing the line of hate crime / terroristic threats. No surprise coming from an organization with a symbiotic relationship with terrorists like the oath keepers, michigan militia, 3%s. The Right continues to try to drag the Left down to it's level.    

    As of late, it seems like the Right have only been responding to Left wing violence.  Is that their excuse now, that they were provoked (triggered) and cannot contain their violent tendencies?  
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,876
    PJPOWER said:
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    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.
    There's a yawning chasm between triggering and provoking someone. If the NRA is dog-whistling for violence based on race & political views, they're toeing the line of hate crime / terroristic threats. No surprise coming from an organization with a symbiotic relationship with terrorists like the oath keepers, michigan militia, 3%s. The Right continues to try to drag the Left down to it's level.    

    As of late, it seems like the Right have only been responding to Left wing violence.  Is that their excuse now, that they were provoked (triggered) and cannot contain their violent tendencies?  
    If you provoke someone towards violence, don't be surprised when you get punched in the nose. Everything about this video is intended to tickle your lizard brain, designed to add fuel to the fire, rather than try to de-escalate some imaginary problem. 

    The right is responding to fear mongering and having their stupidity exploited for political and financial gain. See also: "regulations kill jobs", "healthcare is socialism" & "voter fraud". 

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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,098
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    The country is being overrun by radical.liberal antifa protesters burning and looting there way across the country!!!! PANIC!!!!

    lol get the fuck outta here with that paranoid bullshit... nobody us coming to burn down your home for fucks sake... stop being ridiculous
    It's nuts. The NRA is clearly escalating fear to push policy, sell more guns and the easily duped eat it up.

    The are hurting you're country.
    Any question that the NRA had transformed from a civil rights organization into a full on far right white nationalist group evaporated in the deafening silence of their nonresponse to the Philando Castile verdict.
    It has been pretty clear from the start, but yeah, their silence on that case has been deafening.
    There have been a lot of members that have spoken with their $ about this and verbally condemned the lack of response.  Castile did not deserve to get shot and no justice was serviced by the legal system in that incident.  The NRA truly need to get some new PR people in there. They are truly only good at lobbying these days.  There are plenty of lesser known gun rights organizations out there that handle their shit better than the NRA.  Regardless, I still think it's funny how many people were "triggered" by the mostly non-substantial video above.  
    triggered, what a stupid phrase.  

    It is actually a pretty legitimate psychological term.  Sorry that the term "triggered" triggers your anger.
     https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wander-woman/201507/5-steps-managing-your-emotional-triggers
    It may be a legitimate term, but that doesn't mean you're using it correctly.  
    I don't think I use it out of context when describing "triggered" emotional responses from non-substantial videos.  Similarly, my eye rolls are triggered by the triggered emotional responses.  
    "Triggered" does not equate to "people who disagree with me". Yeah, you're using it incorrectly. 

    The video triggered a response.  The video triggered anger amongst the left...what's so hard to understand?  The leftist response triggered my eye rolling.  All well within the context.
    Triggered implies an unreasonable or disproportionate response.  It's been bastardized by the likes of you to mean any sort of response or resistance to the hateful, inciteful rhetoric of the right.  Throwing around terms like 'trigger' is not only insulting to people who have had traumatic experiences resulting in serious psychological conditions; it's a tactic used to chill free speech by dismissing people's legitimate concerns as irrational.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed.
    Not embarrassed or ashamed.  I feel that many of the concerns are irrational.  You proved me right, the video triggered irrational responses.  Some are more easily triggered than others.                




                                   
    Your response is not surprising given your extremist stance. 
    Haha, if my stance is extremist, then there are some super duper hecka extremists out there that totally overshadow my so called extremism.  Not agreeing with you does not equal extremism...unless you are on the far extreme of the other side...such as the Antifa lunatics.
    Keep defending that video that promotes escalation in violence. 
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 1,373
    Just watched the video. Yikes.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,739
    Because only in 'Murica do you have to worry about going to the hospital and being shot. Does Trump Care cover that?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 11,963
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 6,033
    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 11,963
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    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
    Yes people on these boards (some in this same discussion) called kathy gifford's bloody donald trump's head "art".  Even though to me it supported a hell of a lot of violence. The nra made an ad that bashed the left (some of it is actually true), what surprises you about that?


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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 6,033
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I honestly fail to see how this nra video supports white supremacy or even violence.  I thought it was a pretty good ad in terms of trying to recruit more people to join the nra and in the same breath criticizing the left.   Isn't it ironic that some of you  criticize this ad but support kathy gifford's recent attempt at "art"?
    That would be ironic, except for the facts that (1) not one person on here supported Gifford's actions (one or two thought it qualified as art, but no one supported the message) and (2) the NRA video isn't art, nor is it even pretending to be. It's a propaganda piece with a message of hate against large groups of people. So it's difficult to see your comparison, really. 
    Yes people on these boards (some in this same discussion) called kathy gifford's bloody donald trump's head "art".  Even though to me it supported a hell of a lot of violence. The nra made an ad that bashed the left (some of it is actually true), what surprises you about that?

    Where is the hate against large groups of people in the ad?
    People can think something is art and still not be in support of it, just like I can agree that the US army has lots of bombs and not be in favour of how they are used. I'm not sure why the distinction is difficult to understand. 
     
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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,098
    dudeman said:
    Just watched the video. Yikes.
    Thank you. 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,736
    dignin said:
    Is anything not associated with white supremacy these days?  What a clown.
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