Fan Club Scalpers

hypnotist collector

Dear Ten Clubbers and/or Intrepid Moderators,
Please take a few moments to check out this abhorrent disgrace:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tix/4492818865.html

This is a firsthand example of how true fans get shat on. To quote the Craigslist poster, "rock on"...

-Hypnotist Collector

DT104705

I just reported this A hole. I suggest everyone else do the same.

whofeelslikeadrank

santos should respond to the ad, buy the tickets, and pick them up at will call with the guy... then kick his ass. disgraceful. but I guess it's just another person trying to capitalize on the free market. what to do?

FrankieG

Someone should respond, acting interested, and get his email/contact info and report it to 10club. You don't even need to confront him in person.

The Akkus

He is probably on here and probably reading this. If so, this is for you. FUCK YOU!

whofeelslikeadrank

FrankieG said:

Someone should respond, acting interested, and get his email/contact info and report it to 10club. You don't even need to confront him in person.

i like your idea better than mine :>

Vedd Hedd

Wow, that's crazy.

voodoopug

crazy, but expected. With the economy what it is in Detroit, people are even more desperate to profit in a crooked fashion.

quimby20

He knows the drill though. Drink the wine, get a tambourine etc.... Should be easy to identify. Hope he loses the tickets.... Oh, I am generating a list to get the confiscated tickets. 1st the list.

1) quimby20

Indifference71

Jesus, you guys are pretty harsh. I know it's against 10c rules, but let's not make this guy out be a violent criminal. People need to relax.

lolobugg

Agree^^^ he is just playing the loop hole that is general admission. It is def not in the spirit of the 10 club community. but i can't condemn him... who knows what his situation is. maybe he lost his job and has kids that he needs to feed... yeah i know i am a bleeding heart liberal.

ComeToTX

There's scalpers now that join to access GA tickets. Not really surprising.

shortstack

ComeToTX said:

There's scalpers now that join to access GA tickets. Not really surprising.

hypnotist collector

Harsh perhaps, but dude-$1000? That's straight ridiculous. What with scalpers, poster/record "flippers", and in-general no-goodniks, I feel like Pearl Jam exists for some merely as a source of supplemental income. Witnessed it firsthand at Wrigley. I know times are harder for some than others but to completely gouge another fan is a classic example of shittiness begetting more shittiness. As stated above, the rules of Ten Club ticketing are made abundantly clear from the get-go. Good luck with your tickets and all. Now if you'll excuse me I think my Mystery Box just arrived (logs in to eBay). Rock on...

hypnotist collector

And trust me I'm not trying to wave the righteous pitchfork and torch but the 10c exists to give fans an opportunity to avoid scalpers and ticket brokers (one and the same really). Congrats if you won GA seats but I wouldn't be surprised if people are joining the 10c just to try and flip tickets.

shortstack

well yeah....

Poncier

ComeToTX said:

There's scalpers now that join to access GA tickets. Not really surprising.

Its the one aspect of GA that kind of backfires on 10club's intentions.
Scalper types can now take a shot at 20 bucks a year to go strictly after GA seats...if they score one pair they have made a huge return on investment.
This is where the old intent of seniority based seating helping to prevent scalping goes out the window. There's no perfect solution unfortunately.

Vedd Hedd

Poncier, this is a good point. I still don't like GA shows and would rather have reserved seating throughout. I wish they would expand the "lottery" seats to rows 1-3 and 8-10. That leaves senority for rows 4-7, and 11- rest of the building.

Indifference71

hypnotist collector said:

And trust me I'm not trying to wave the righteous pitchfork and torch but the 10c exists to give fans an opportunity to avoid scalpers and ticket brokers (one and the same really). Congrats if you won GA seats but I wouldn't be surprised if people are joining the 10c just to try and flip tickets.

I'm sure there are people that join just to flip tickets. It sucks, but what can you do?? Until the 10c starts making you scan your credit card at the door to get in the show, there are going to be flippers.

To call it an "abhorrent disgrace" is a bit dramatic. Plus, it's not like someone has a gun to another fan's head forcing them to pay $1K for a ticket....I'm sure that guy will have no trouble selling those tickets for a grand. That's just the way it goes.

mcrok

they could do the ticketless entry...you'd have to swipe your credit card at the gate to get in...i see it coming

concertaholicshirt

The person is a douche, plain and simple. I've made decent $ over the years as a re-seller, including VH (3rd Row Center) and Prince (2nd Row Center) tickets that I sold for over $1,000 each. As my name here implies, I'm an addict... I use my profits to fund my concert addiction. In the case of VH, I netted about $650 after buying another really good seat, and Prince I netted a little over $100 and got a 2nd Row Left seat. (face on Prince's "VIPs" was about $450.... and the VIP was meaningless... no extras.)

That said, the two times I got GA from PJ were for Missoula and Seattle, which were very far from home. It was very tempting to list one of them on CL for a large profit to help defray my travel costs, but I respected the band's wishes. I sold both at cost to a 10C fan, and Seattle I could have gotten $500 from a guy standing by the Will Call window... I still didn't have the other guy's $, but I wasn't going to fuck him and take the extra $400+.

Fuck this Detroit douche. Karma, Bay-BEE... Karma.

Vedd Hedd

If they keep GA shows, I wish they would organize it like Springsteen.
If they go back to reserved seating, they should update the rows that have lottery seats. 1-3 and 8-10. Either way, they should require credit card scan to enter. That is the safest for fans, and best protection against scalpers.

CM189191

hypnotist collector said:

Harsh perhaps, but dude-$1000? That's straight ridiculous. What with scalpers, poster/record "flippers", and in-general no-goodniks, I feel like Pearl Jam exists for some merely as a source of supplemental income. Witnessed it firsthand at Wrigley. I know times are harder for some than others but to completely gouge another fan is a classic example of shittiness begetting more shittiness. As stated above, the rules of Ten Club ticketing are made abundantly clear from the get-go. Good luck with your tickets and all. Now if you'll excuse me I think my Mystery Box just arrived (logs in to eBay). Rock on...

Which was compounded by the fact that Wrigley serves as a source of income for many scalpers in the area as well...

CreedFeed

lolobugg said:

Agree^^^ he is just playing the loop hole that is general admission. It is def not in the spirit of the 10 club community. but i can't condemn him...

What loop hole? The 10C rules specifically state you can't sell your tickets for more than face value or you can lose your memebership.

From: http://pearljam.com/tenclub/tickets

* Reselling Ten Club tickets for above face value will result in the revocation of all future ticket privileges.

I would condemn him.

MayDay10

The system unfortunately makes this very easy to do. Been saying this for a year now

lolobugg

CreedFeed said:

lolobugg said:

Agree^^^ he is just playing the loop hole that is general admission. It is def not in the spirit of the 10 club community. but i can't condemn him...

What loop hole? The 10C rules specifically state you can't sell your tickets for more than face value or you can lose your memebership.

From: http://pearljam.com/tenclub/tickets

* Reselling Ten Club tickets for above face value will result in the revocation of all future ticket privileges.

I would condemn him.

The loophole or whatever you want to call it that allows someone to sign up with a digital membership or multiples for that matter and have just as much chance as members that have been in the club for years. These people don't give a damn about the 10 club policy, they are just trying to make money. Do you think he cares if he is banned for life from the 10 club. i highly doubt it. He is selling thru craigslist to be anynomous as possible.

Look I am not complaining about the lottery. i lost and didn't bitch once. but if you are gonna be newer members and enjoy the potential of getting close to the stage, then you are going to have to deal with this kind of shit. Yeah, i hope they find a better way. but don't be naive....

Dead Man Walking

I've never been to a show at "Teh Joe" before.

Santos L. Halper

Scalper will be identified and dealt with. Please forward any scalper info to: santos_l_halper@tenclub.net
slh

lolobugg

Santos L. Halper said:

Scalper will be identified and dealt with. Please forward any scalper info to: santos_l_halper@tenclub.net
slh

Right on , Santos...
You guys make me proud.

The Akkus

Santos L. Halper said:

Scalper will be identified and dealt with. Please forward any scalper info to: santos_l_halper@tenclub.net
slh

Go get em Santos!

Echoes 001

Well this guy is a douche, sucks to see the tickets to the show I was trying to get went to him.