NY INMIGRATION AND TRAFFIC DELAYS

Cheo Ramirez

Hi

im heading NY for the Friday 18 and 19 shows.

My plane arrives at 4:15 pm, shows starts 7:30 pm as TM web announced.

Do i have plenty time to pass jfk inmigration, then a friday ny traffic, go to my hotel (3rd av & E 34ST) and then to barclays center, until PJ hits the stage???.

No taxi in all the route.

Thanks for your response

Spiritual_Chaos

Cheo Ramirez wrote:

Hi

im heading NY for the Friday 18 and 19 shows.

My plane arrives at 4:15 pm, shows starts 7:30 pm as TM web announced.

Do i have plenty time to pass jfk inmigration, then a friday ny traffic, go to my hotel (3rd av & E 34ST) and then to barclays center, until PJ hits the stage???.

No taxi in all the route.

Thanks for your response

Don't have an answer. But when i was to change flight on JFK to Montreal when travelling form Sweden. Man, I hated those customs lines. Was so stressed.

And everyone was wearing guns too and it was an unpleasent aura in the air.

iamloco724

Cheo Ramirez wrote:

Hi

im heading NY for the Friday 18 and 19 shows.

My plane arrives at 4:15 pm, shows starts 7:30 pm as TM web announced.

Do i have plenty time to pass jfk inmigration, then a friday ny traffic, go to my hotel (3rd av & E 34ST) and then to barclays center, until PJ hits the stage???.

No taxi in all the route.

Thanks for your response

i wouldnt say plenty of time, rush hour traffic to your hotel could be like an hour its self then from 34th street to barclays via train would be like 35-45 min

GratefulJam

You should consider taking the train from JFK at that hour to the hotel and then train it back to Barclays in Brooklyn.

For some reason I think the E train is the best one. Not sure which one is best to get to the venue.

DS107374

Cheo Ramirez wrote:

Hi

im heading NY for the Friday 18 and 19 shows.

My plane arrives at 4:15 pm, shows starts 7:30 pm as TM web announced.

Do i have plenty time to pass jfk inmigration, then a friday ny traffic, go to my hotel (3rd av & E 34ST) and then to barclays center, until PJ hits the stage???.

No taxi in all the route.

Thanks for your response

You're going to be cutting it close...Friday night from JFK across Bklyn is going to be a tough, tough commute. I don't know how long the immigration process takes but I think it will be close.

Pushin Forward Back

trying to predict the time to pass thru customs is a shot in the dark. It all depends what other Intl flights have just come in.... Also considering it is JFK I would allot a good hour to get thru that mess.

Cheo Ramirez

Thanks nykers, thinking about taking airtrain to hotel and subway or taxi to barclays,

airport shuttle ny express is faster than air train (heres no rush hour traffic or im wrong?)?

sk8nshoot1

I think we need to know if there's an opening act?? Start time for PJ would be later if there is one... That might be the cushion you'll need to go to your hotel first...

GratefulJam

Anything on the roads is going to be BAD. Subway while hot and crowded will be best route.

Make sure you have a map ready when yo uget out of the subway in NYC so you know which way to go to hotel.

All the best!!

Cheo Ramirez wrote:

Thanks nykers, thinking about taking airtrain to hotel and subway or taxi to barclays,

airport shuttle ny express is faster than air train (heres no rush hour traffic or im wrong?)?

ldent42

Cheo Ramirez wrote:

Thanks nykers, thinking about taking airtrain to hotel and subway or taxi to barclays,

airport shuttle ny express is faster than air train (heres no rush hour traffic or im wrong?)?

Rush hour traffic is everywhere. I would agree that you are cutting it closer with that time, and the airport shuttle bus is going to take just as long as a cab would to get you where you are going. It seems to me, the best option would be for you to take the AirTrain and the LIRR. The LIRR will leave you at Penn Station and depending on how much luggage you have you could either take a cab or take the M34 bus to 3rd avenue. It's a pretty long walk, and if you are going to be carrying luggage i wouldn't suggest it.

You should purchase a metrocard for the duration of your stay while you are buying your airtrain ticket. The bus only accepts change, no bills. Each ride is $2.50 per person. If you get an unlimited metrocard you cannot share with someone else.

I suggest the LIRR because it is faster than the train and you are really cutting it pretty close. To get to the Barclays center you could walk from your hotel to 33rd street & park avenue where you will get on the downtown 6 train. At Union Square transfer to the 4 or 5 train (across the platform) and that will take you straight to Barclays.

Good luck!

Suziemay

You are cutting it very very close. I would try to change to an earlier flight if at all possible because the last thing you want to happen is for your flight to get delayed which is not out of the realm of possibility.

Do you already have your concert ticket or do you need to pick-up? Would be best if you already have this in hand. That way even if you're running late you can still head to your seat. If there's an opening act I'm thinking PJ will come on at 9:00. If not, they will probably be on by 8:00.

Assuming your flight lands on time, these are some things to take into consideration:

• Immigration can be anywhere from 15 minutes to 1.5 hours depending on what other international flights come in
• Are you checking bags? That can sometimes end up being a long wait too
• I would avoid taxi/busses and take the Air Train to either LIRR or subway. Neither are that straightforward, it's not all nice and convenient like the London Heathrow Express. NYC airport transportation sucks big time. Shortest would be Air Train to LIRR (35 minutes according to this): http://www.panynj.gov/airports/jfk-airtrain.html. However, that only takes you to Penn Station, which is on the West Side. Your hotel is on the East Side, and actually a horizontal line from Penn Station. You could take a taxi or walk; sometimes it's hard to find taxis on Friday evenings but there's a taxi stand right outside Penn Station.
• If you do Air Train to Subway, it will probably take you an hour or so, and you will need to change from the E(blue line) to the 6(Green line) at Lexington Avenue/53rd Street downtown, and get off at the 33rd Street stop then walk two avenues to your hotel
• THEN from your hotel, it will probably take you 30-45 minutes to get to Barclays (take the 6 train, transfer to the 4 or 5 at Union Square)

So if I do my worse case of 1.5 hours for immigration + 1.5 hours for travel to hotel + 15 minutes check in + 1 hour to get to Barclays that's 4 hours and 15 minutes which puts you at Barclays at 8:30. This is my worse case for you assuming your flight lands on time. I built in getting lost time (because I get lost all the time ).

To figure out how to get places and how long things take, check out hopstop.com

ldent42

Suziemay wrote:

[*]I would avoid taxi/busses and take the Air Train to either LIRR or subway. Neither are that straightforward, it's not all nice and convenient like the London Heathrow Express. NYC airport transportation sucks big time. Shortest would be Air Train to LIRR (35 minutes according to this): http://www.panynj.gov/airports/jfk-airtrain.html. However, that only takes you to Penn Station, which is on the West Side. Your hotel is on the East Side, and actually a horizontal line from Penn Station. You could take a taxi or walk; sometimes it's hard to find taxis on Friday evenings but there's a taxi stand right outside Penn Station.

Great minds. I don't buy that 35 minutes though. It would probably be 35 minutes once you are physically on the LIRR train.

I've done that walk from 8th to 3rd before, in a rush, in about 20 minutes. Which is why I suggested taking the bus. Didn't know about the taxi stand but if you can get a taxi and get him to take 33rd or 32nd (whichever runs east) that would probably be best.

josevolution

You should of just arrived Thursday .....

xavier mcdaniel

JFK is a disaster most days, you're likely to be delayed.

Get_Right

As others have said you are cutting it close. A slight flight or train delay and you will be late.

The trains are your friend.
Pack light, backpack if possible. I find it quicker to walk from Penn to the east side unless you get a cab right away.

Airtrain from JFK-no doubt. Check the schedules and have the times handy for the LIRR which can be a bitch on a friday.

Once you get to Penn and if possible walk cross town on 33rd or 32nd. Much faster than walking on 34th. After that, I will leave it to the experts, because I have no idea how to get to brooklyn.

Rossum20

You're cutting it too close if you ask me. Friday's are usually messy for all modes of transportation in the NYC area. That's if you get to JFK on time. Ive been on flights that have landed on time to JFK, then they didn't have a free gate so we had to sit on the tarmac for an hour before we could even deplane. What about weather? It only takes a hiccup to set off a chain of delays. At least there are two shows just in case, right?

Let's put it this way: I would never travel internationally the day of a show. You're coming all this way and dropped a bunch of $$ for your flight etc and you absolutely couldn't have come the night before? Trying to cut costs that way could end up costing you a lot more in the end, but since you already bought the ticket before asking our advice, let's just stay positive and hope it works out! Good luck!

Suziemay

duska3419 wrote:

Suziemay wrote:

[*]I would avoid taxi/busses and take the Air Train to either LIRR or subway. Neither are that straightforward, it's not all nice and convenient like the London Heathrow Express. NYC airport transportation sucks big time. Shortest would be Air Train to LIRR (35 minutes according to this): http://www.panynj.gov/airports/jfk-airtrain.html. However, that only takes you to Penn Station, which is on the West Side. Your hotel is on the East Side, and actually a horizontal line from Penn Station. You could take a taxi or walk; sometimes it's hard to find taxis on Friday evenings but there's a taxi stand right outside Penn Station.

Great minds. I don't buy that 35 minutes though. It would probably be 35 minutes once you are physically on the LIRR train.

I've done that walk from 8th to 3rd before, in a rush, in about 20 minutes. Which is why I suggested taking the bus. Didn't know about the taxi stand but if you can get a taxi and get him to take 33rd or 32nd (whichever runs east) that would probably be best.

Yeah, I don't buy the 35 minutes either which is why I built in 1.5 hours for him

NYC airports and airport transportation are an embarrassment. I literally want to apologize to everyone on my flight everytime we fly into the city, I know so many people are so excited to visit NYC for the first time and the gateway to it all (i.e., the airports) are just a very sorry representation of NYC.

Suziemay

PS if you bought your flight within the last 24 hours you can still change it. It's non-refundable after 24 hours. I've pleaded stupid before when I booked an international flight for the WRONG MONTH and the nice Expedia lady just laughed and said oh, we have a 24-hour forgiveness rule, it happens all the time, don't worry.

ldent42

Suziemay wrote:

Yeah, I don't buy the 35 minutes either which is why I built in 1.5 hours for him

NYC airports and airport transportation are an embarrassment. I literally want to apologize to everyone on my flight everytime we fly into the city, I know so many people are so excited to visit NYC for the first time and the gateway to it all (i.e., the airports) are just a very sorry representation of NYC.

I never travelled much until the last few years, and I agree with you 100%. After flying into ATL and ORD which both have their subway connected TO the airport I realized exactly how bad it is here.

EdsonNascimento

No chance and you'll be stressed the entire time. Will not be fun even if you make the show.

Alfonz

I'm not from NYC, but I've been there a few times. Most recently this weekend. From my perspective as someone who doesn't quite know the system like somebody who lives there ... you might want to factor in the chance of getting confused/lost.

I was trying to get from JFK to hotel to Hoboken (for the MMJ, Wilco, Dylan show). Nothing like your route, but maybe a similar amount of messing around and crossing the city. My plane was scheduled for 2.45pm landing, I didn't get to the concert until just after 6pm (including quick shower/dinner). That's over 3 hours without having to worry about customs.

After the AirTrain, I got on the LIRR to Penn without realising my just purchased Metro card didn't cover that, and somehow talked my way out of the fair when the ticket lady came up to me on the train. Then I couldn't find the stupid fucking PATH train (which you won't have to worry about). It ended up taking me a fair bit longer than what Google directions said it would initially.

Also, after being on a plane, and all the fucking around to find your hotel, a shower/feed/lie down would be desirable. Think about that, cause you don't want to go to the show all hungry and smelly.

GM151575

In my opinion, you don't have a shot in hell to make it on time. I wouldn't risk leaving my house in nj at 430 to get to brooklyn show by 730. Even if everything went smoothly, you wont make it, then factoring in all the delays that could possibly go wrong, you could be sitting waiting for your luggage for a half hour alone easily.

Jeremys Spoken

why in the...

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GET THERE THE DAY BEFORE!

ldent42

HEY!

Cut the guy some slack he's obviously unfamiliar with the NY travel experience! And he may have a very good reason for flying in so close to showtime. He asked for advice about the best/fastest route because he's short on time, what's the point in criticising him? CHILL.

Realistically speaking, IF his flight isn't delayed, he gets to the airtrain by 6pm, AND he buys his metrocard and LIRR ticket at the machine at the airport (like i suggested he do) I think he can make it to the Barclays center by 8pm, which isn't THAT late. Luckily he's staying near the 6 train so it's a simple transfer to the 4/5 which will take him straight to Barclays, running express.

Whether or not he will fit on that train at that time, is another story....

Cheo Ramirez

oh i read this thank you i made it well, 10 minutes before pj hit the stage amazing shows, the airtrain is awesome