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My young daughter has Ulcerative Colitis

Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
edited September 2013 in All Encompassing Trip
My 7 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with a mild case of UC. We are currently in the early stages of it, trying to find what medication(s) works and what doesn't.

She went in this morning to have a liver ultrasound, apparently a routine thing for UC patients to make sure the liver is working properly. Her specialist's assistant happened to walk by while she and my wife were waiting for the ultrasound tech and said "has she (looked) like this all weekend?". She had. Super low energy, depressed, etc. But she also has a cold, so we weren't totally sure if it was the UC or a mixture. She might get put on steroids today as nothing else has helped thus far during her first post-diagnosis flare up.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Kids are supposed to be kids. They aren't supposed to have chronic diseases. This breaks my heart, and I can't stop crying today. On the "bright" side, they did say it was mild, and my sister has this as well, and she lives a completely normal life. But she also didn't get it until her mid 30's.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,105
    My 7 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with a mild case of UC. We are currently in the early stages of it, trying to find what medication(s) works and what doesn't.

    She went in this morning to have a liver ultrasound, apparently a routine thing for UC patients to make sure the liver is working properly. Her specialist's assistant happened to walk by while she and my wife were waiting for the ultrasound tech and said "has she (looked) like this all weekend?". She had. Super low energy, depressed, etc. But she also has a cold, so we weren't totally sure if it was the UC or a mixture. She might get put on steroids today as nothing else has helped thus far during her first post-diagnosis flare up.

    Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

    Kids are supposed to be kids. They aren't supposed to have chronic diseases. This breaks my heart, and I can't stop crying today. On the "bright" side, they did say it was mild, and my sister has this as well, and she lives a completely normal life. But she also didn't get it until her mid 30's.

    I have no tips. Only good thoughts I can send your way. Stay strong for your daughter. You are right, no kid should have to go through any of that. But if she has strong, loving parents, she will be in a great position.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,617
    Best wishes for your daughter and your family in supporting her. I know nothing about this, sorry.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    sorry to hear about your daughter's condition ... from what i know of this - it's treatable and she should be able to live a relatively normal life although i suspect she will have to make dietary concessions ...

    first thing ... cut dairy and gluten
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    mca47mca47 Posts: 13,252
    My ex-girlfriend had UC.
    For the most part she was able to maintain a normal lifestyle, but on occasion she'd get flare-ups.
    She took Asocol which worked well, then switched over to Delzicol...both are the same drug (Mesalamine).
    Both are pretty pricey too so I hope you have good insurance.
    Whatever your daughter takes, be sure she doesn't miss any doses as it can cause flare-ups. When that happens, more drastic measures have to be taken (steroids, suppositories, etc.).

    Sorry to hear about her disease...just know that once she finds a drug that works, she will def be able to maintain a normal lifestyle.
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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,236
    My Niece and Sister both have this.............they looked for years to find something that made them feel better. I know the facts aren't totally in and some people are against it, but they both swear by a gluten free diet....
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    PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,774
    Sorry to hear about your daughter’s diagnosis. You’re right, kids should be able to just be kids. My niece and nephew have Cystic Fibrosis and they have daily routines/medication to take just to stay alive and healthy, and you hate for kids to have to go through that. But again, it KEEPS them healthy.

    Once you find what works best for your daughter, you should see an improvement. With UC, it usually is finding the right diet and sticking to it. I would keep a diary of what she eats for a month, and monitor her reactions so that you know what causes any discomfort or change in her color or behavior and adjust her diet accordingly.

    Best wishes to you and your family.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,294
    Hey my best wishes for her & your family i wish i could provide more except best wishes my daughter suffers from depression not saying it's the same as what your daughter is going thru but as parents anything tha affects our kids just really kiils us be strong for her bro ...
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    polaris_x wrote:
    sorry to hear about your daughter's condition ... from what i know of this - it's treatable and she should be able to live a relatively normal life although i suspect she will have to make dietary concessions ...

    first thing ... cut dairy and gluten

    yeah, I've been reading about the Simple Carbohdrate Diet. It's not one of those "quick fix" diets like Atkins or anything like that, just making choices based on the history and evolution of our species. It's quite timely, as I've been thinking a lot lately about what we, especially North Americans, consume, and how horrible it must be for our bodies.

    it basically states that the human diet has evolved too far ahead of the human body, which is a key factor in human illness. which makes perfect sense.

    that being said, I've only done minimal research on it and need to do more. but it grabbed me from how logical it sounds in its simplicity.
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    and thanks for all the well wishes folks. really appreciated.
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    mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    I'm so sorry to read about this. it's tough when it's a young child and their diagnosed with a disease. It looks like it may run in your family since your sister has this. It looks like your sister will be a great help to your daughter and hopefully will make this much easier to handle.

    Keep us posted. I wish your family all the best.
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    badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Sorry to hear HFD, like others have said, sending positive vibes for your little angel. Hang in there buddy.
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    oceaninmyeyesoceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    My thoughts are with you and your daughter HFD. I have a little boy with a chronic condition as well. And it is heartbreaking at times. The tests my little guy had to endure at age 4 were enough to make a grown man roll into a ball and cry. And he endured it all with tears in his eyes, but hardly ever made a sound. That would send me right over the edge. He is 10 now and things have improved a great deal. I hope that with the right treatment you will look back at this time as a bad dream. In the meantime, if you need a listening ear, we are here.
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    Black DiamondBlack Diamond Posts: 25,107
    Hope everything works out with your daughter. I have a son who has a chronic condition that gets him in the hospital about every three months. Best thing I can tell you is make sure you exhaust the experts in the field so you feel comfortable with them to help you make decisions. We met with many doctors and affiliated hospitals before finding the best doctor for him.

    You can't control everything, just know that but you can make it workable both for them and for you.

    Good luck.
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    FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,095
    Sorry to hear the bad news but looking on the bright side, atleast she has been diagnosed. It took my Dr. more than 9 months to diagnose me (Crohns, in 2002 when I was 11), which really sucked because I was having some horrible pain back then. (I am 22 now)


    My first tip: Don't take any advice as perfect truth. Some things people swear-by will not work. Some things people swear won't work will work. She needs to try everything for a reasonable amount of time to determine if she likes it herself or not.

    Work carefully with her GI to fight the pain, which is something I wish I had done more back then. I just figured I had to live with it.. If you see a medication starting to stop working, change medication. Fight this thing aggressively.

    I have found that diets are more hassle than they are worth, imo. I have learned to avoid certain foods but dont follow a specific no gluten, SCD, etc.

    Sign her up on https://crohnology.com/ . This is an awesome facebook-like website that other people with Crohns and UC can share stories, ask questions, find what treatments work, etc.

    Having UC is better than having Crohn's. Crohn's is inflammation anywhere in the digestive tract, so to be completely cured, I would have to remove my entire digestive tract, which isn't possible. UC is only inflammation in the colon, which if removed, you can still live.

    If you have any more specific questions I would be glad to answer them as best I could having Crohns and not UC.
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    barger395barger395 Posts: 855
    Hey HFD, I'm really sorry to read this about your daughter. I wish I had answers for you, but I do not. Like everyone else here, my though are with you and your family. I have the utmost belief in the power of the human spirit, and by reading your posts, I'm sure your daughter has the same strong fortitude, just like her Dad. Which leads me to believe she is going to come through this a stronger person!!

    I look forward to hearing about your daughter's progress in the months and years to come.

    Cheers and be well,
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,781
    polaris_x wrote:
    sorry to hear about your daughter's condition ... from what i know of this - it's treatable and she should be able to live a relatively normal life although i suspect she will have to make dietary concessions ...

    first thing ... cut dairy and gluten

    yeah, I've been reading about the Simple Carbohdrate Diet. It's not one of those "quick fix" diets like Atkins or anything like that, just making choices based on the history and evolution of our species. It's quite timely, as I've been thinking a lot lately about what we, especially North Americans, consume, and how horrible it must be for our bodies.

    it basically states that the human diet has evolved too far ahead of the human body, which is a key factor in human illness. which makes perfect sense.

    that being said, I've only done minimal research on it and need to do more. but it grabbed me from how logical it sounds in its simplicity.

    Wish I didn't know anything on this topic and I won't clutter your thread with our story. I will say that I feel strongly that the right foods are healing and the wrong foods the opposite. I immersed myself in researching this topic for a number of years to help my son who was suffering so badly. He is now medication free and eats almost everything. Read, read, read. Specific carbohydrate diet and GAPS (gut and psychology syndrome) are great places to start. Thoughts and prayers for u and your daughter.

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    STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Ouch.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    barger395 wrote:
    Hey HFD, I'm really sorry to read this about your daughter. I wish I had answers for you, but I do not. Like everyone else here, my though are with you and your family. I have the utmost belief in the power of the human spirit, and by reading your posts, I'm sure your daughter has the same strong fortitude, just like her Dad. Which leads me to believe she is going to come through this a stronger person!!

    I look forward to hearing about your daughter's progress in the months and years to come.

    Cheers and be well,
    BS
    This well-spoken fellow up there said what I wanted to, but so much better.

    Good thoughts from here, HFD.
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    Wish I didn't know anything on this topic and I won't clutter your thread with our story. I will say that I feel strongly that the right foods are healing and the wrong foods the opposite. I immersed myself in researching this topic for a number of years to help my son who was suffering so badly. He is now medication free and eats almost everything. Read, read, read. Specific carbohydrate diet and GAPS (gut and psychology syndrome) are great places to start. Thoughts and prayers for u and your daughter.

    Jen

    my wife asked a GI doc yesterday about the SCD and she responded with a resounding no. I don't get it. it's not like fucking atkins where you eat only bacon and no carbs or something stupid. it's just eating what humans have naturally evolved to digest. again, I've only read a minimal amount. I need to research more. But of course my wife agreed that eating no grains is terrible.
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,781
    Wish I didn't know anything on this topic and I won't clutter your thread with our story. I will say that I feel strongly that the right foods are healing and the wrong foods the opposite. I immersed myself in researching this topic for a number of years to help my son who was suffering so badly. He is now medication free and eats almost everything. Read, read, read. Specific carbohydrate diet and GAPS (gut and psychology syndrome) are great places to start. Thoughts and prayers for u and your daughter.

    Jen

    my wife asked a GI doc yesterday about the SCD and she responded with a resounding no. I don't get it. it's not like fucking atkins where you eat only bacon and no carbs or something stupid. it's just eating what humans have naturally evolved to digest. again, I've only read a minimal amount. I need to research more. But of course my wife agreed that eating no grains is terrible.


    It took us awhile to find a doctor who was willing to even discuss diet and nutrition and my son suffered the whole time. When we found the right doc to guide us it made all the difference for us. This is a good understandable book that describes what's going on in the digestive track in scientific but understandable terms.

    http://gapsdiet.com/site/dc5a8ec29ce74f ... om%2F#3093


    Don't be scared off by the fact that on the surface this book seems to address neurological implications of gut dysfunction. It's much more than that. My son had some behavioral issues but his symptoms were mostly digestive and food allergy. I know grain free sounds crazy. We did it for quite awhile while he healed. Now he eats high quality gluten free grains along with almost anything else. We caught all of this when he was just a baby so he healed fairly quickly.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    my wife asked a GI doc yesterday about the SCD and she responded with a resounding no. I don't get it. it's not like fucking atkins where you eat only bacon and no carbs or something stupid. it's just eating what humans have naturally evolved to digest. again, I've only read a minimal amount. I need to research more. But of course my wife agreed that eating no grains is terrible.

    what was her reasoning!? ... i'm not a medical professional but i do have my WFR and i've seen my share of hospitals and the one thing I believe in is that as complicated as the human body and condition is - often many things are really quite simple ... as a GI specialist - she should be able to explain why that diet would not work and it should make sense to you ... you need to advocate for your daughter and the best thing you can do is to do your own research and ask as many questions as is necessary ... for sure, you need to put a little bit of trust and faith into the medical professionals but if ultimately their priority is the well being of your daughter then they should treat your contribution as a positive ...

    my very good friend has a young infant with medical issues and she has made astounding progress (not without setbacks) but that is because my friend is active in her care and not just simply let the doctors do as they should ...

    it's a fine line but doctors at hospitals see a lot of patients and not everyone is the same ...
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    polaris_x wrote:
    what was her reasoning!? ... i'm not a medical professional but i do have my WFR and i've seen my share of hospitals and the one thing I believe in is that as complicated as the human body and condition is - often many things are really quite simple ... as a GI specialist - she should be able to explain why that diet would not work and it should make sense to you ... you need to advocate for your daughter and the best thing you can do is to do your own research and ask as many questions as is necessary ... for sure, you need to put a little bit of trust and faith into the medical professionals but if ultimately their priority is the well being of your daughter then they should treat your contribution as a positive ...

    my very good friend has a young infant with medical issues and she has made astounding progress (not without setbacks) but that is because my friend is active in her care and not just simply let the doctors do as they should ...

    it's a fine line but doctors at hospitals see a lot of patients and not everyone is the same ...

    I don't think she gave any concrete reason. except that no diet is a cure, and that kids need all good foods (including grains) and cutting anything out is a mistake. unfortunately, I wasn't at this one, my wife was, and if you've got a degree, she automatically believes every word you say. just suggesting this to her yesterday got me a "are you crazy?" look. but I don't know if giving her 3 different meds 5 times a day is the right course. how hard is that going to be on her little body. steroids for a 7 year old girl? I hate that north america cures everything with meds and not nature. we need some more progressive people in the medical community with very loud voices.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    I don't think she gave any concrete reason. except that no diet is a cure, and that kids need all good foods (including grains) and cutting anything out is a mistake. unfortunately, I wasn't at this one, my wife was, and if you've got a degree, she automatically believes every word you say. just suggesting this to her yesterday got me a "are you crazy?" look. but I don't know if giving her 3 different meds 5 times a day is the right course. how hard is that going to be on her little body. steroids for a 7 year old girl? I hate that north america cures everything with meds and not nature. we need some more progressive people in the medical community with very loud voices.

    yikes ...

    i know you are in a tough spot and i say the following only in the interests of your daughter and her only ... doctors are not always right nor are they immune to being swayed by pharmaceuticals and special interests (see wheat board and milk board) ... you need to advocate for her and the best way is to do as much research as possible ... think critically and ask the questions you want answers to ...

    i'm not saying to ignore her medical team just simply that from here on out - you are part of that team and you need to have a voice and you need to be heard ... your daughter has a condition that is the result of an inflammation of the bowel ... that means something has caused that inflammation ... it isn't a huge stretch to consider food as a primary reason ... if diet isn't the first response to this - something is wrong ...
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    marcosmarcos Posts: 2,111
    So sorry to hear that, I too suffer such an ailment but am obviously much older. She will be in my positive thoughts & prayers.
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    polaris_x wrote:
    yikes ...

    i know you are in a tough spot and i say the following only in the interests of your daughter and her only ... doctors are not always right nor are they immune to being swayed by pharmaceuticals and special interests (see wheat board and milk board) ... you need to advocate for her and the best way is to do as much research as possible ... think critically and ask the questions you want answers to ...

    i'm not saying to ignore her medical team just simply that from here on out - you are part of that team and you need to have a voice and you need to be heard ... your daughter has a condition that is the result of an inflammation of the bowel ... that means something has caused that inflammation ... it isn't a huge stretch to consider food as a primary reason ... if diet isn't the first response to this - something is wrong ...

    thanks polaris. I have never been the type of person to believe someone just because they have a PhD. Everything is opinions based on research. Including this diet. And even her doctors admit there is no universal treatment for UC, so it's interesting to me that they'd so quickly dismiss something that doesn't come from them. Her specialist even told us that he and the most respected GI specialist in Canada disagree on some of the treatments he is prescribing her (her doc thinks stopping the meds when she's in remission is a mistake, this "big guy" is of the opposite opinion). So I'm going to look into that too.

    I have heard so many stories already of people not taking any meds and being symptom free for years. So that's a positive. I guess this is my new purpose. I'm going to do all I can and spend every free moment helping my daughter through this and fighting for her health.

    She is, after all, my little princess.
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,781
    polaris_x wrote:
    yikes ...

    i know you are in a tough spot and i say the following only in the interests of your daughter and her only ... doctors are not always right nor are they immune to being swayed by pharmaceuticals and special interests (see wheat board and milk board) ... you need to advocate for her and the best way is to do as much research as possible ... think critically and ask the questions you want answers to ...

    i'm not saying to ignore her medical team just simply that from here on out - you are part of that team and you need to have a voice and you need to be heard ... your daughter has a condition that is the result of an inflammation of the bowel ... that means something has caused that inflammation ... it isn't a huge stretch to consider food as a primary reason ... if diet isn't the first response to this - something is wrong ...

    thanks polaris. I have never been the type of person to believe someone just because they have a PhD. Everything is opinions based on research. Including this diet. And even her doctors admit there is no universal treatment for UC, so it's interesting to me that they'd so quickly dismiss something that doesn't come from them. Her specialist even told us that he and the most respected GI specialist in Canada disagree on some of the treatments he is prescribing her (her doc thinks stopping the meds when she's in remission is a mistake, this "big guy" is of the opposite opinion). So I'm going to look into that too.

    I have heard so many stories already of people not taking any meds and being symptom free for years. So that's a positive. I guess this is my new purpose. I'm going to do all I can and spend every free moment helping my daughter through this and fighting for her health.

    She is, after all, my little princess.

    I couldn't agree more polaris_x and awesome that you are ready to advocate for your daughter HFD. In my experience GI docs want to treat the symptoms not find the cause. Again not all but until we found the right doc I often felt like I was talking to a brick wall and occasionally made to feel like I was actually harming my child. Many of them simply don't understand nutrition and just want the quick fix.

    Edited to add... Also the quick fix is appealing to patients/parents bc you think the suffering will stop quicker. It's not a long term solution though. You just have to keep coming back for more meds. Dietary changes are hard initially but in my opinion are often necessary for long term wellness
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    I guess this is my new purpose. I'm going to do all I can and spend every free moment helping my daughter through this and fighting for her health.

    She is, after all, my little princess.

    yes ... you are part of that medical team now!

    and ditto to everything shetellsherself has written ... you might need to reconsider who is part of that team ...

    many ailments could be fixed in today's society through dietary changes ... start there ... i'm about to lead a trip to Iceland and 6 of my 14 participants have gluten and/or dairly intolerances ...
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    oceaninmyeyesoceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    polaris_x wrote:
    yikes ...

    i know you are in a tough spot and i say the following only in the interests of your daughter and her only ... doctors are not always right nor are they immune to being swayed by pharmaceuticals and special interests (see wheat board and milk board) ... you need to advocate for her and the best way is to do as much research as possible ... think critically and ask the questions you want answers to ...

    i'm not saying to ignore her medical team just simply that from here on out - you are part of that team and you need to have a voice and you need to be heard ... your daughter has a condition that is the result of an inflammation of the bowel ... that means something has caused that inflammation ... it isn't a huge stretch to consider food as a primary reason ... if diet isn't the first response to this - something is wrong ...

    thanks polaris. I have never been the type of person to believe someone just because they have a PhD. Everything is opinions based on research. Including this diet. And even her doctors admit there is no universal treatment for UC, so it's interesting to me that they'd so quickly dismiss something that doesn't come from them. Her specialist even told us that he and the most respected GI specialist in Canada disagree on some of the treatments he is prescribing her (her doc thinks stopping the meds when she's in remission is a mistake, this "big guy" is of the opposite opinion). So I'm going to look into that too.

    I have heard so many stories already of people not taking any meds and being symptom free for years. So that's a positive. I guess this is my new purpose. I'm going to do all I can and spend every free moment helping my daughter through this and fighting for her health.

    She is, after all, my little princess.

    I couldn't agree more polaris_x and awesome that you are ready to advocate for your daughter HFD. In my experience GI docs want to treat the symptoms not find the cause. Again not all but until we found the right doc I often felt like I was talking to a brick wall and occasionally made to feel like I was actually harming my child. Many of them simply don't understand nutrition and just want the quick fix.

    Edited to add... Also the quick fix is appealing to patients/parents bc you think the suffering will stop quicker. It's not a long term solution though. You just have to keep coming back for more meds. Dietary changes are hard initially but in my opinion are often necessary for long term wellness

    I agree with both of you. Finding the right doc was key for us in dealing with my son's gu problems. And the more reading and research you do on your own will make you a much better advocate for your daughter. As my husband often says, "This parenting thing isn't how it appeared in the brochure. . . " :lol: It can be such a struggle and feel like you are hitting your head against a brick wall at times, but when your baby is healthy and back to feeling good again, it will all be worth it. It took almost 2 years and three tries to find the right doc and treatment for us; keep fighting the good fight.
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,781
    here's a fixed link to the info on GAPS diet...again great book that explains the science behind why the nutritional changes work

    http://gapsdiet.com/
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    I left work after half a day today. I couldn't stop crying. Although, after a nap and ANOTHER appointment for her, she is energetic, eating, happy, and talkative.

    Can't ask for much more than that. One smile at a time.
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
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