I think it should be a 10C system organized based on the time the tickets are picked up.
Let the line form at the ticket windows and then you get your "line" # based on how early you get your tickets.
Hey that's not too bad as it still rewards the diligent.
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i was a "list" man, but not by choice. i was first in line, thus as more people came it became a situation of people talking about the list, and it's such custom in the states that i wasn't going to be like "no list!". it didn't make much difference to me. of course people "abuse" the list, but what can you do? Beat em up? Even without a list or numbers it's still the same, it's fans governing fans. it's all a gray area. like where's the cutoff in the time you can leave? 10 mins? 20? so you see the only truly 100% "fair" way to do this is to literally never leave your spot in line, like how it is in south america. and that way would be fuckin brutal haha so as much as i think this line and list is ridiculous, i think considering our options it's the best way to make it "fair". it's a flawed system, but the alternative would be not even being able to leave to go to bathroom, or just chaos haha so yes, i was a "list" guy, what of it? :P
So what do people in SA do?? Just go to the bathroom on the sidewalk while they're waiting in line?? :shock:
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I think at this point we are beating a dead horse. Is it fair? no. Is it going to change? no. I get that it sucks it happened to me as well.
You can't change other people, you can only change yourself. You want the rail? Get there at 8am and stick your butt on that concrete.
The line (and the list) for that matter only really matter for those people getting the rail. I would say the vast majority of the people on the rail waited all day. Once you get inside, GA is a free for all. I entered as number 200 and still managed to end up 4th row, dead center (and that's without pushing or being a jerk). The GA crowd is a fluid thing, it moves and shifts. You go where it takes you.
I'd say we can lock this all up because everyone has made their point and is just saying the same thing. Again, I get it! It happened to me too...but at the end of the day, I still had one of the greatest "seats" in the building (and I would have even if I was at the back of the pit).
Meh, GA is fair. Anyone who says otherwise is just too fucking old to go to a rock gig.
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I think it should be a 10C system organized based on the time the tickets are picked up.
Let the line form at the ticket windows and then you get your "line" # based on how early you get your tickets.
Yeah but if u get some slow ass at the ticket window that can't find ya name and if u are lined up at the window
with the most common letter for a surname it might be slow moving..
Don't even bother. I'm already in line in LA. I'm holding spots for 100 people, they've already been here and left to use the bathroom...they're be back in time for the doors opening.
Seriously, I had SO MUCH more fun in the 90s when this shit wasn't happening.
If there is GA entry at every gate for every show everyone could stop even thinking about any of this. If there are a few morons who decide to do a sprint and fall down some stairs or get into scrums that is their problem - I couldn't care less about the people who make it dangerous for themselves.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Overheard a conversation that went something like this:
"Come over to the GA line"
"Well, I don't have a number"
"Honey, do you know who I am..?!"
Sounds like some corruption in the system here..... :roll:
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Vancouver seemed to have been a total clusterfuck yesterday. Yikes. Saw the lists and numbering of hands in SoCal. Looks like it just keeps happening. Hoping Seattle doesn't get out of hand as it's a key show obviously. Again, there's the honest fans who leave only briefly. But it's the list that allows people to abuse the waiting, and needs to be gotten rid of.
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I hope they never bring back seats in front of the stage. I just wish everyone going for GA would chill the fuck out.
this is it in a nutshell
This is what I hope too. I think GA has served the purpose the band wanted it to by injecting new life into the front of the building. But the list needs to go.
i was a "list" man, but not by choice. i was first in line, thus as more people came it became a situation of people talking about the list, and it's such custom in the states that i wasn't going to be like "no list!". it didn't make much difference to me. of course people "abuse" the list, but what can you do? Beat em up? Even without a list or numbers it's still the same, it's fans governing fans. it's all a gray area. like where's the cutoff in the time you can leave? 10 mins? 20? so you see the only truly 100% "fair" way to do this is to literally never leave your spot in line, like how it is in south america. and that way would be fuckin brutal haha so as much as i think this line and list is ridiculous, i think considering our options it's the best way to make it "fair". it's a flawed system, but the alternative would be not even being able to leave to go to bathroom, or just chaos haha so yes, i was a "list" guy, what of it? :P
So what do people in SA do?? Just go to the bathroom on the sidewalk while they're waiting in line?? :shock:
We don't go to the bathroom at all!
Seriously, you just ask for the guy behind you to save your spot while you go to the bathroom, but you are not supposed to abuse or return with a couple of friends, otherwise the guys behind will start a fuckin' riot!
Vancouver seemed to have been a total clusterfuck yesterday. Yikes. Saw the lists and numbering of hands in SoCal. Looks like it just keeps happening. Hoping Seattle doesn't get out of hand as it's a key show obviously. Again, there's the honest fans who leave only briefly. But it's the list that allows people to abuse the waiting, and needs to be gotten rid of.
Yeah, but it's the fans making the list, and the fans agreeing to have numbers put on their hands. 10C has nothing to do with it and can't be expected to get involved with what people are doing outside of the venue.... So who is going to get rid of it?? Organized fan rebellion? :P
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
Ladies and gentleman, a true goddamn American. I salute you.
I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
This is what a GA line is supposed to be about. The people who stick it out all day long need to band together and tell those who grab a number and leave all day that they will not be allowed back in line.
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I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
This is what a GA line is supposed to be about. The people who stick it out all day long need to band together and tell those who grab a number and leave all day that they will not be allowed back in line.
Bravo
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I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
Ladies and gentleman, a true goddamn American. I salute you.
I'll be in line tomorrow. I packed a hat, two scarves, three sweaters, a fleece, and a blanket- all of which I am fine leaving for a cold person to find when the doors open (I'll retrieve them after if they are still there). If someone wants me to put my name on a list, fine, a number on my hand, whatever. The fact is, I will leave to use the bathroom, to get coffee, to pick up my tickets, and that is it. I hope I'm there early enough that even if someone feels entitled to cut it won't prevent me from an amazing view. That's my perogative. Those who don't care about being in front, don't try for it. Can't freaking wait!!!!!
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Don't even bother. I'm already in line in LA. I'm holding spots for 100 people, they've already been here and left to use the bathroom...they're be back in time for the doors opening.
Seriously, I had SO MUCH more fun in the 90s when this shit wasn't happening.
I feel that GA is the best way to see them. I enjoyed 3 of 4 shows in GA this West Coast swing. I didn't wait at all in line, enjoying the pre-parties instead. I'd hate to see the faithfull turning on one another as the list and its abusers make others upset. Could be a ticking time bomb before something bad or way worse occurs. It'd be great if they looked into keeping GA, and created a system that eliminated the need to line up all day. This would put an end to this unauthorized practice of "The Line and The List".
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man this all sounds so fucking childish. seriously, a fucking list? putting your friends names on it if they haven't put in the time? I have never, nor will I ever spend that kind of time in line, but jesus christ, if I did, and Hugh Fucking Dillon came up to me asking to be "moved in" to the line, I'd say "back of the line, fucker".
If only adults acted like it.
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GA is the best way to see them. They were born of it and are still made for it. I hope its kept GA up front. But I have a feeling that they will make the change to a BOSS-like system here soon.
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Hey that's not too bad as it still rewards the diligent.
You can't change other people, you can only change yourself. You want the rail? Get there at 8am and stick your butt on that concrete.
The line (and the list) for that matter only really matter for those people getting the rail. I would say the vast majority of the people on the rail waited all day. Once you get inside, GA is a free for all. I entered as number 200 and still managed to end up 4th row, dead center (and that's without pushing or being a jerk). The GA crowd is a fluid thing, it moves and shifts. You go where it takes you.
I'd say we can lock this all up because everyone has made their point and is just saying the same thing. Again, I get it! It happened to me too...but at the end of the day, I still had one of the greatest "seats" in the building (and I would have even if I was at the back of the pit).
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Yeah but if u get some slow ass at the ticket window that can't find ya name and if u are lined up at the window
with the most common letter for a surname it might be slow moving..
Bring back seats
Seriously, I had SO MUCH more fun in the 90s when this shit wasn't happening.
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"Come over to the GA line"
"Well, I don't have a number"
"Honey, do you know who I am..?!"
Sounds like some corruption in the system here..... :roll:
this is it in a nutshell
This is what I hope too. I think GA has served the purpose the band wanted it to by injecting new life into the front of the building. But the list needs to go.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Seriously, you just ask for the guy behind you to save your spot while you go to the bathroom, but you are not supposed to abuse or return with a couple of friends, otherwise the guys behind will start a fuckin' riot!
Ladies and gentleman, a true goddamn American. I salute you.
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This is what a GA line is supposed to be about. The people who stick it out all day long need to band together and tell those who grab a number and leave all day that they will not be allowed back in line.
Bravo
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If only adults acted like it.
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