Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel?

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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    edited June 8
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
  • riley540riley540 Bellingham WAPosts: 548
    Any band should play any place they want to play!!! Nobody can tell someone where or how they do their work. Props to Radiohead for riding against the wave
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,398
    riley540 said:
    Any band should play any place they want to play!!! Nobody can tell someone where or how they do their work. Props to Radiohead for riding against the wave
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,311
    rgambs said:
    riley540 said:
    Any band should play any place they want to play!!! Nobody can tell someone where or how they do their work. Props to Radiohead for riding against the wave
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,485
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
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  • fifefife Posts: 2,972
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 15,772
    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world.
    i would not begrudge a band for not wanting to play here because of our foreign policy. doesn't really matter to me though, as most bands i like are bands from north america. i would be upset if like iron maiden, or some european bands refused to play here because of our policies, but uk policies are in line with ours so it is a moot discussion. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,485
    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world.

    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world. 
    Yes I would ! 
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  • fifefife Posts: 2,972
    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world.

    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world. 
    Yes I would ! 
    thanks for answering the question.  I don't know if I agree that if a band plays a place like Isreal or canada or america or any other country means that you support oppression but I am open to being proven wrong on that one
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 21,875
    no.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,873
    fife said:
    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world.

    fife said:
    BS44325 said:
    Radiohead should be called out they could of avoided all the turmoil just by doing a show in Palestine too ! This situation can only be looked at if you play Israel you stand with them ...
    Radiohead fans were attacked by Islamists at a Moon Shaped Pool listening party in Turkey...how well do you think one of their concerts would go over in Hamas controlled territoy?
    Like it or not for them to play Israel it shows support for oppression or maybe you don't see the Palestine people as being oppressed? 
    would you say the same thing for bands who play in america considering how america oppressing many people around the world. 
    Yes I would ! 
    thanks for answering the question.  I don't know if I agree that if a band plays a place like Isreal or canada or america or any other country means that you support oppression but I am open to being proven wrong on that one

    This was just discussed on the last page...this is what I said about it:

    I'm not aware of an ongoing occupation and ethnic cleansing happening within the US, to which an entire desperate population has requested help to overcome via boycot.  If there was one, it would be a separate discussion.  The occupation is a relatively unique situation in the world today, and should be treated as such - it is modern day colonialism...knowing our own colonial history should not be a reason to back away from peaceful protest in support of other oppressed peoples.

    In other words...'why not boycott country x?'  Is a strawman argument that detracts from this discussion.  


    From the BDS movement's site:

    BDS is a strategy of popular resistance and the most effective strategy of international solidarity with the Palestinian struggle for rights. It is not an ideology or a dogma that can be helpful in all circumstances of injustice.

    BDS is a Palestinian-led movement. It is only logical that Palestinians and those who stand in solidarity with their struggle orient their struggle towards Israel, the party that denies Palestinians their freedom, and not towards North Korea, for example. The South African liberation movement also targeted the regime of oppression that they lived under, naturally, not the one in Cambodia or Honduras at the time.

    Palestinians are choosing to use and calling for the tactic of BDS to hold Israel to account because it is necessary, morally consistent and effective.

    The BDS movement challenges the way in which Israel is singled out for unprecedented support from the international community. Western governments in particular shield Israel from being held to account for its war crimes against Palestinians, allowing it to continue its colonial project without facing consequences. The BDS movement is working to end this exceptionalism and calls for Israel to be held to account according to the standards of international law.

    As the South African anti-apartheid leader Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu once said, the west places Israel “on a pedestal,” above international law and above criticism. BDS aims to take Israel off that pedestal to be held accountable for its violations of international law. ​


  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,429
    Radiohead sucks
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    my2hands said:
    Radiohead sucks
    Denier!
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    BS44325 said:
    my2hands said:
    Radiohead sucks
    Denier!
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    BS44325 said:
    my2hands said:
    Radiohead sucks
    Denier!
    Toxic stew maker!
    The science is settled that Radiohead is amazing.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,311
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    my2hands said:
    Radiohead sucks
    Denier!
    Toxic stew maker!
    The science is settled that Radiohead is amazing.
    take the bleeps and bloops out of their discography, and I'd be inclined to agree with you. 
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    my2hands said:
    Radiohead sucks
    Denier!
    Toxic stew maker!
    The science is settled that Radiohead is amazing.
    take the bleeps and bloops out of their discography, and I'd be inclined to agree with you. 
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    Seriously...Man Of War is as good as any Radiohead song ever written. Israel would be lucky to hear that live.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,485
    BS44325 said:
    Seriously...Man Of War is as good as any Radiohead song ever written. Israel would be lucky to hear that live.
    How about the Palestinian fans ..
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,429
    BS44325 said:
    Seriously...Man Of War is as good as any Radiohead song ever written. Israel would be lucky to hear that live.
    How about the Palestinian fans ..
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,429
    And I stand by my earlier #denier statement lol
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 15,772
    BS44325 said:
    Seriously...Man Of War is as good as any Radiohead song ever written. Israel would be lucky to hear that live.
    How about the Palestinian fans ..
    for the win.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,818
    BS44325 said:
    Seriously...Man Of War is as good as any Radiohead song ever written. Israel would be lucky to hear that live.
    How about the Palestinian fans ..
    for the win.
    Why? Who is stopping them?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 6,990
    PJ Israel ticket... better chance of seeing Jesus on vocals at Stone Poney covering Nirvana Rape Me on Dec 13th




     
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