Not a LP fan, though I dig the song somewhere I belong. Chester is a very intelligent, bright and nice guy.
Question becomes.....would you go see Scott Weiland and his band or STP with Chester if you had to pick one? Given many of the same songs would be played.
All things considered, I think I would actually pick STP w/Chester.
Same here. Those recent videos of Weiland and his solo band were some of the lousiest most amateur clips I've ever seen, excluding only stuff that get's uploaded b/c it so bad. The replacements couldn't even play the right parts.
Question becomes.....would you go see Scott Weiland and his band or STP with Chester if you had to pick one? Given many of the same songs would be played.
All things considered, I think I would actually pick STP w/Chester.
I don't think I'd bother with either at this point.
So much of what I like about STP is Scott's stage presence, but he seems totally lost in his addiction at the moment, and incapable of giving consistently good performances. Last time I saw them live was 2010, technically speaking he sounded pretty strong, but you could see he wasn't all there.
I don't know if it was just nerves, but Chester seemed a bit awkward in those live videos, and he sounded pretty flat on some of the songs - most noticeably Interstate Love Song, his voice isn't quite deep enough.
I guess it depends where you set the bench mark, my favourite memory of seeing STP live was on the same tour as this performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4 - and I just don't see Bennington and co touching this.
I disagree. I think Talk Show was as strong a record as any STP record. They just didn't have the "star power" to get any support from radio or their record company.
That star power being Scott Weiland.....
give this man a gold star!
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I disagree. I think Talk Show was as strong a record as any STP record. They just didn't have the "star power" to get any support from radio or their record company.
That star power being Scott Weiland.....
give this man a gold star!
I think you kind of missed what I was saying. Dave Coutts is a fine singer, and the Talk Show record is very solid, and I'm sure there are others who might consider it as good as STP. However, you have to question why a record including 3/4 of one of the biggest bands around at the time didn't sell quite as well. My point in all of this, not to sound too cliched, is that Weiland has the X factor, that is what he brings to STP. Chester Bennington isn't a bad singer, and technically speaking he can probably sing most of their material, but to my ears something is missing. Probably the same thing that prevented the Talk Show record being elevated from a really decent rock record to a stone cold classic.
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I think you kind of missed what I was saying. Dave Coutts is a fine singer, and the Talk Show record is very solid, and I'm sure there are others who might consider it as good as STP. However, you have to question why a record including 3/4 of one of the biggest bands around at the time didn't sell quite as well. My point in all of this, not to sound too cliched, is that Weiland has the X factor, that is what he brings to STP. Chester Bennington isn't a bad singer, and technically speaking he can probably sing most of their material, but to my ears something is missing. Probably the same thing that prevented the Talk Show record being elevated from a really decent rock record to a stone cold classic.
no, I think we're on the same page here, sort of. of course the 4 of them together were something that none of them are seperately. However, I think it all boiled down to support from the record company. back then there was no self promotion online, it was all the record company putting money down where they thought it would benefit them the most, and 99 times out of 100, if you didn't have that backing, you were certain to fail. And STP just doesn't have the rabid following that other bands do where they'd just buy anything with the deleo brothers involved.
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Scott Weiland and band play LA last night, Chester-STP play LA tonight. Interesting and so weird. I wonder if they draw similar crowds?
I highly doubt it. STP would draw the douchebag quotient (now with the Linkin Park connection) and the casual STP fan whereas Weiland would draw the uber-fan, kind of like Ed does.
I have all of Weiland's solo albums (except the xmas one), and I wouldn't touch his solo show if I was paid. He's a train wreck.
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Same here. Those recent videos of Weiland and his solo band were some of the lousiest most amateur clips I've ever seen, excluding only stuff that get's uploaded b/c it so bad. The replacements couldn't even play the right parts.
You know that the Deleo's are gonna bring it.
I don't think I'd bother with either at this point.
So much of what I like about STP is Scott's stage presence, but he seems totally lost in his addiction at the moment, and incapable of giving consistently good performances. Last time I saw them live was 2010, technically speaking he sounded pretty strong, but you could see he wasn't all there.
I don't know if it was just nerves, but Chester seemed a bit awkward in those live videos, and he sounded pretty flat on some of the songs - most noticeably Interstate Love Song, his voice isn't quite deep enough.
I guess it depends where you set the bench mark, my favourite memory of seeing STP live was on the same tour as this performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4 - and I just don't see Bennington and co touching this.
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I think you kind of missed what I was saying. Dave Coutts is a fine singer, and the Talk Show record is very solid, and I'm sure there are others who might consider it as good as STP. However, you have to question why a record including 3/4 of one of the biggest bands around at the time didn't sell quite as well. My point in all of this, not to sound too cliched, is that Weiland has the X factor, that is what he brings to STP. Chester Bennington isn't a bad singer, and technically speaking he can probably sing most of their material, but to my ears something is missing. Probably the same thing that prevented the Talk Show record being elevated from a really decent rock record to a stone cold classic.
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no, I think we're on the same page here, sort of. of course the 4 of them together were something that none of them are seperately. However, I think it all boiled down to support from the record company. back then there was no self promotion online, it was all the record company putting money down where they thought it would benefit them the most, and 99 times out of 100, if you didn't have that backing, you were certain to fail. And STP just doesn't have the rabid following that other bands do where they'd just buy anything with the deleo brothers involved.
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I highly doubt it. STP would draw the douchebag quotient (now with the Linkin Park connection) and the casual STP fan whereas Weiland would draw the uber-fan, kind of like Ed does.
I have all of Weiland's solo albums (except the xmas one), and I wouldn't touch his solo show if I was paid. He's a train wreck.
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They could have at least got someone more appropriate to the sound - or did they just go for someone who would get a lot of press and attention?
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Scott gave the band character, but the brothers provide the music.
they basically admitted the latter, saying they wanted someone famous, so they didn't go through a Talk Show thing again.
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Is he gonna sing Plush, Big Empty, Vasoline, etc?? :fp:
otherwise people wouldnt go to the shows