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Hawking "humans must leave earth to survive"

mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
edited April 2013 in All Encompassing Trip
Time to rethink those NASA budget cuts?

http://now.msn.com/stephen-hawking-said ... to-survive

Stephen Hawking knows a thing or two about how the universe works. So when the renowned physicist issues a warning that our time on Earth is running out, it’s probably worth hearing him out. Hawking recently told an audience at L.A.’s Cedars-Sinai Medical Center that, if mankind would like to continue existing, we need to get off this rock of ours — pronto (well, in science years). Hawking said human beings "won't survive another 1,000 years without escaping our fragile planet," and that we need to continue space exploration so we can get off this sinking ship called Earth.
fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

"what a long, strange trip it's been"
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    RKCNDYRKCNDY Seattle, WA Posts: 31,013
    I won't be here in 1000 years-I'm not worried.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    I think he is wrong.


    I agree with eventually, we will have to. At some point for humans to keep existing, we will need another planet.

    To put a time frame on it like that is a bit ignorant IMO.
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    BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Nibiru is Coming!
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    mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    i believe it will be too freaking hot for humans to thrive by 1000 years
    mass exodus or mass extinction
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    wow

    1,000 years? that aint no time at all. in 1,000 years... it will be here tomorrow. this dude works fast & quicker. i myself i love earth & dislike assholes screwing earth up with pollutions & greedy ass deep water oil drilling dicks.

    stephen hawking is out of his mind from one day to the next just like many of us. imagination wonderful
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    no more forever."

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    mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    chadwick wrote:

    i myself i love earth & dislike assholes screwing earth up with pollutions & greedy ass deep water oil drilling dicks.

    indeed which is why we will never be able to unwind in time
    production was halted and prototypes destroyed on electric cars in the 70's
    after the gas "shortage"
    that was 40 fucking years ago
    had we started then?
    well we'll never know
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
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    LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    idiot
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    DURPDURP OhighO Posts: 2,180
    meh
    My butt itches!
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,522
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, he said this years ago. And I'm sure he's probably right. No one cares, because most people don't have the ability to care about what happens hundreds of years in the future. The people approving funding for space programs only care about whether or not they're going to win the next election.

    I think that ending the shuttle program was only a good idea if they plan on starting a great new program. Which is supposedly the plan. Meanwhile, I guess future generations should feel lucky that China is getting into the space game (hopefully they don't mess up space the way they've messed up China). The US doesn't have to be the one getting people into the space. Humans do. Also luckily, 800 years or whatever it is is a LONG time for technological advancements in space travel to develop.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    I plan on becoming part of this Earth by way of cremation as soon as my old ass dies off so no leaving for me at least in my physical form ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,225
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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    I plan on becoming part of this Earth by way of cremation as soon as my old ass dies off so no leaving for me at least in my physical form ..
    nicely done.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    chadwick wrote:
    I plan on becoming part of this Earth by way of cremation as soon as my old ass dies off so no leaving for me at least in my physical form ..
    nicely done.

    I know you will do the same ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    my wife and i looked at 3 places on mars last weekend.

    way overpriced. :roll:
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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    my wife and i looked at 3 places on mars last weekend.

    way overpriced. :roll:
    and then you have fence work & out of the ordinary unruly neighbors & their bullshit millennium falcon or something
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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    helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,262
    now he is saying we have 100 years left before human extinction. even if he is wrong by 100 years we most surely are F'd. whats KILLS me is to find human cave paintings that are 35,000 years old, and here we are, the people who fuck up the planet in the last 100 years...

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/05/stephen-hawking-human-extinction-colonize-planet.html

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    I don't buy it. he is trying to sell his documentary. any time someone makes a bold, especially fear-based claim like that, and it turns out they are promoting something, I call BS. 
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    helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,262
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    yes, I have heard that too. it is realy difficult for me to fathom us overfishing to the point of the ocean being empty in only 30 years. the sheer vastness of it doesn't seem to add up. 

    either way, I am going to encourage my kids to not procreate. Get a dog. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,522
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    I recently read that Vancouver would have about the same climate as San Diego by 2050, which would be a complete ecological and economic disaster obviously. That wasn't a Hawking prediction either. :confounded: Yeah, we're fucked. I am REALLY glad I chose not to have children. I feel better about that choice every fucking day. Which is depressing, in a way, lol.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,522
    edited May 2017
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    yes, I have heard that too. it is realy difficult for me to fathom us overfishing to the point of the ocean being empty in only 30 years. the sheer vastness of it doesn't seem to add up. 

    either way, I am going to encourage my kids to not procreate. Get a dog. 
    Never underestimate the ability of humans to decimate a population quickly. They managed to nearly wipe out beavers and buffalo in North America in only a handful of decades back when the population was only a small fraction of what it is today. I have no doubt whatsoever that people can empty the oceans and seas in 30 years, especially with climate change doing the same job at the same time..... It's also fathomable that somehow governments will step in and do something real before this happens... but I'm not holding my breath. I feel extremely pessimistic about the future of humanity and how much damage it can still do before it's gone.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    PJ_Soul said:
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    yes, I have heard that too. it is realy difficult for me to fathom us overfishing to the point of the ocean being empty in only 30 years. the sheer vastness of it doesn't seem to add up. 

    either way, I am going to encourage my kids to not procreate. Get a dog. 
    Never underestimate the ability of humans to decimate a population quickly. They managed to nearly wipe out beavers and buffalo in North America in only a handful of decades back when the population was only a small fraction of what it is today. I have no doubt whatsoever that people can empty the oceans and seas in 30 years, especially with climate change doing the same job at the same time..... It's also fathomable that somehow governments will step in and do something real before this happens... but I'm not holding my breath. I feel extremely pessimistic about the future of humanity and how much damage it can still do before it's gone.
    there is an unimaginable amount of fish in the sea. not really comparable to beavers or buffalo. but still, i see your point. i have a hard time believing that governments will step in, because that would require international cooperation on an unprecedented level, and that just won't happen. if it does, it will most likely be too late already. humankind has a bad habit of fixing things when they are already beyond repair. 
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    PJ_Soul said:
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    yes, I have heard that too. it is realy difficult for me to fathom us overfishing to the point of the ocean being empty in only 30 years. the sheer vastness of it doesn't seem to add up. 

    either way, I am going to encourage my kids to not procreate. Get a dog. 
    Never underestimate the ability of humans to decimate a population quickly. They managed to nearly wipe out beavers and buffalo in North America in only a handful of decades back when the population was only a small fraction of what it is today. I have no doubt whatsoever that people can empty the oceans and seas in 30 years, especially with climate change doing the same job at the same time..... It's also fathomable that somehow governments will step in and do something real before this happens... but I'm not holding my breath. I feel extremely pessimistic about the future of humanity and how much damage it can still do before it's gone.
    there is an unimaginable amount of fish in the sea. not really comparable to beavers or buffalo. but still, i see your point. i have a hard time believing that governments will step in, because that would require international cooperation on an unprecedented level, and that just won't happen. if it does, it will most likely be too late already. humankind has a bad habit of fixing things when they are already beyond repair. 

    There is not an unimaginable amount of fish in the sea (I mean, unless you're talking about dating....). The ocean's resources are vast but definitely not unlimited. Humans have already wiped out certain fish populations by overfishing and we are not learning from that lesson. Fishing technology is just far too efficient now. When you count in waste from bycatch and the fact that a lot of species are unpalatable, I can easily see humans turning the oceans into a desert.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    PJ_Soul said:
    i've also heard the fish will run out in the ocean by 2050, just saying...and that one's not mister hawking's prediction!
    we are f'd no matter which way you slice the sandwich  ;)
    yes, I have heard that too. it is realy difficult for me to fathom us overfishing to the point of the ocean being empty in only 30 years. the sheer vastness of it doesn't seem to add up. 

    either way, I am going to encourage my kids to not procreate. Get a dog. 
    Never underestimate the ability of humans to decimate a population quickly. They managed to nearly wipe out beavers and buffalo in North America in only a handful of decades back when the population was only a small fraction of what it is today. I have no doubt whatsoever that people can empty the oceans and seas in 30 years, especially with climate change doing the same job at the same time..... It's also fathomable that somehow governments will step in and do something real before this happens... but I'm not holding my breath. I feel extremely pessimistic about the future of humanity and how much damage it can still do before it's gone.
    there is an unimaginable amount of fish in the sea. not really comparable to beavers or buffalo. but still, i see your point. i have a hard time believing that governments will step in, because that would require international cooperation on an unprecedented level, and that just won't happen. if it does, it will most likely be too late already. humankind has a bad habit of fixing things when they are already beyond repair. 

    There is not an unimaginable amount of fish in the sea (I mean, unless you're talking about dating....). The ocean's resources are vast but definitely not unlimited. Humans have already wiped out certain fish populations by overfishing and we are not learning from that lesson. Fishing technology is just far too efficient now. When you count in waste from bycatch and the fact that a lot of species are unpalatable, I can easily see humans turning the oceans into a desert.
    i said unimaginable, not unlimited. i personally can't imagine every single fish on the planet. it's inconceivable to a human. again, i'm not saying we won't ruin it. we most likely will, i just can't see it happening that soon. 

    that being said, i'm not against regulations at all. we overfish. we fucking over-everything. it's gross. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,687

    I don't buy it. he is trying to sell his documentary. any time someone makes a bold, especially fear-based claim like that, and it turns out they are promoting something, I call BS. 
    My first thought was, Stephen Hawk-kaching

    Plus, these kinds of predictions are so freaking unproductive.  Yes, if we kill the oceans (and we are doing our damnedest to do so) we will go extinct.  If we jack the global temp up too high, adios amigos.  If he engage in all out nuclear war, gonners.  But we don't know when and we don't know how complete will be our demise.  Instead of wasting time making predictions like this, I wish high profile science guys like Hawking would do something useful to help- and a lot of them are- people like Elizabeth Kolbert and Edward O. Wilson-  as well as scores of lesser famous scientists. 


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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,493
    He is dangerous and directed..
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    helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,262
    edited May 2017
    what blows my mind is how destructive we have become to our planet in the last 100 years and with the pace of that destruction multiplying faster and faster. we just can't maintain this pace of destruction. be it, the rain forest, the oceans, air pollution etc etc
    when we finally strip the ocean of fish what are all those people going to do who depend on fish as their main dietary source of food? are they ready? i doubt it.
    do we have another 100 years of being able to sustain ourselves like they way we are now? i highly doubt it and like others have mentioned it will need to be a focused response by everyone on the planet...good luck to that !!
    i try to be upbeat and positive mostly but we are headed for extinction and at a accelerating pace! if anything stephen should be commended for making us talk about it...cause the opposite to that is harmful to our species.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,687
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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