Someone should remaster the 2010 official boots!

lockedlocked BostonPosts: 3,818
edited March 2013 in The Porch
I mean really!

They are some of the worst quality by almost all
"The faithful".. I have spoken to..

Is that even possible?

Just curious?
Post edited by Unknown User on
"This here's a REQUEST!"
EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
10/25/13 Hartford

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  • demetriosdemetrios CanadaPosts: 31,097
    If, and I mean if they do remaster them, please release the complete 2010 tour via 24 Bit Flac-HD format.
  • dustinparduedustinpardue Posts: 1,626
    I thought 2010 sounded the best. You could hear the crowds. I think the 2003s and the Europe 2000s were the blandest sounding. Either way glad we have them to argue about.
  • dustinparduedustinpardue Posts: 1,626
    2003=waaaaay to much organ
  • 63schoefflin63schoefflin Posts: 1,897
    I like the '09 and '10 ones best since they started releasing them in 2000.
    '08- Camden 1-2 '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 122,853
    we talked about alot back then,european 2010 bootlegs sounds are way better than usa leg..i dont know why..
    "....I'd rather be at Chicago Fishing Forum .."
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    The 2012 bootlegs sound the best, sound wise. By far.

    The 2003 boots sound great! As do the 2000 bootlegs, but you do have to crank those up for them to sound like they should.

    The 2010 boots sound ok, you can hear the crowd very good. But I agree they sound very hollow, lacking bass and direct guitar inputs. Boston 2010 sounds terrible. But the show is amazing.

    Maybe re release Boston, Newark and New York. Those shows were epic, and rival pj 20 IMO (the New York shows should have been the pj 20 setlists)

    If they do, I personally would be happy but it's very doubtful this happens.
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    dimitrispearljam" said:
    we talked about alot back then,european 2010 bootlegs sounds are way better than usa leg..i dont know why..
    +1

    Berlin 2010 is an amazing bootleg.
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • 63schoefflin63schoefflin Posts: 1,897
    smanchac1" said:
    The 2012 bootlegs sound the best, sound wise. By far.

    The 2003 boots sound great! As do the 2000 bootlegs, but you do have to crank those up for them to sound like they should.

    The 2010 boots sound ok, you can hear the crowd very good. But I agree they sound very hollow, lacking bass and direct guitar inputs. Boston 2010 sounds terrible. But the show is amazing.

    Maybe re release Boston, Newark and New York. Those shows were epic, and rival pj 20 IMO (the New York shows should have been the pj 20 setlists)

    If they do, I personally would be happy but it's very doubtful this happens.
    I was at both cities and as much as I want to tell myself PJ20 was better to justify going out there....the NY shows I think were better. At PJ20 I felt they never really got in a groove and things were a little choppy. Don't get me wrong it was still a freakin blast and the weekend all together was one of the best experiences of my life. But the shows themselves I don't think were as good.

    But hey that's just me!
    '08- Camden 1-2 '09- Chicago 2; Spectrum 1-4
    '10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
    '12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 122,853
    smanchac1" said:
    [quote="dimitrispearljam"]we talked about alot back then,european 2010 bootlegs sounds are way better than usa leg..i dont know why..
    +1

    Berlin 2010 is an amazing bootleg.[/quote]
    Yep,same as London,and lisbon and venice..
    "....I'd rather be at Chicago Fishing Forum .."
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    63schoefflin" said:
    [quote="smanchac1"]The 2012 bootlegs sound the best, sound wise. By far.

    The 2003 boots sound great! As do the 2000 bootlegs, but you do have to crank those up for them to sound like they should.

    The 2010 boots sound ok, you can hear the crowd very good. But I agree they sound very hollow, lacking bass and direct guitar inputs. Boston 2010 sounds terrible. But the show is amazing.

    Maybe re release Boston, Newark and New York. Those shows were epic, and rival pj 20 IMO (the New York shows should have been the pj 20 setlists)

    If they do, I personally would be happy but it's very doubtful this happens.
    I was at both cities and as much as I want to tell myself PJ20 was better to justify going out there....the NY shows I think were better. At PJ20 I felt they never really got in a groove and things were a little choppy. Don't get me wrong it was still a freakin blast and the weekend all together was one of the best experiences of my life. But the shows themselves I don't think were as good.

    But hey that's just me![/quote]

    I wasn't at pj 20, and what I've seen, I think they were great.

    And I'm not trying to debate between which were better...

    But being in New York, to end their last official US tour, was special.

    The band was on fire, 33 and 34 song sets. All out pj, no guests.. Just epic pearl jam for 3+ hours each night.
    The crowds were amazing in New York. Everyone who was in the building contests to this. It felt like all of New York City was singing along.

    The difference for me is, I've heard quite a few complaints about the guests, Chris Cornell, band being rusty, hit and miss flow and more about pj 20. I've yet to hear anyone, in attendance or not, have a complaint about those New York shows. If you hear them, you'll agree. If you were there, you'll agree. If you look at the setlist on paper alone, you'll agree. New York 2010 was amazing.

    But I can't honestly compare as I wasn't at pj 20. Those looked like great shows as well, night two even more so.
    2000 10.14 10.15
    2003 4.1 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.8 4.9 4.11 4.13 6.9 6.10
    2004 10.8
    2008 6.14 6.17 6.22
    2009 9.21 9.22 9.25 10.4
    2010 5.18 5.20 5.21
    2012 7.4 7.5 7.7 7.9 7.10 9.30
    2013 7.19 10.21 10.22 10.25 12.4 12.6

    35 Shows; 1040 Songs
  • lockedlocked BostonPosts: 3,818
    I apologize folks..
    I meant the US leg of 2010.
    Some of the poorest quality ever..
    I was actually hoping someone could attempt in an unofficial capacity
    Because the band is never going to revisit those shows..
    And as great the setlists were for New York,
    Boston 2010 got more (I'm going to be a "homer" here)
    But:
    Release (one of the best vocals for Ed is ages)
    Crown of Thorns
    Undone
    Pilate
    Rival
    All in one show???
    "This here's a REQUEST!"
    EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
    10/25/13 Hartford
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 122,853
    locked" said:
    I apologize folks..
    I meant the US leg of 2010.
    Some of the poorest quality ever..
    I was actually hoping someone could attempt in an unofficial capacity
    Because the band is never going to revisit those shows..
    And as great the setlists were for New York,
    Boston 2010 got more (I'm going to be a "homer" here)
    But:
    Release (one of the best vocals for Ed is ages)
    Crown of Thorns
    Undone
    Pilate
    Rival
    All in one show???
    Boston 10 is my favo boot from usa 10 by far...
    and 27 shows..and i dont think we ever played this one here,so....
    "....I'd rather be at Chicago Fishing Forum .."
  • 8181 I Miss You LizardPosts: 58,276
    gotta be honest...if i was the mixer, i would get so sick of listening to the same songs over and over that i would try and rush them.
    81 is now off the air

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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 16,541
    smanchac1" said:


    Maybe re release Boston, Newark and New York. Those shows were epic, and rival pj 20 IMO (the New York shows should have been the pj 20 setlists)
    Interesting way of looking at it. I was at all four of those shows and I tend to agree.

    As for 2010 sound- I agree a better job could have been done, but at least they actually released all the shows :roll:.
    06: 7/23
    08: 6/27 7/1
    09: 10/30 10/31
    10: 5/18 5/20 5/21
    11: 9/3 9/4
    12: 9/2
    13: 10/18 10/19 10/21 10/22 10/25

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    EV: 8/4-5/2008, 6/21-22/2011
  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 6,060
    dimitrispearljam" said:
    [quote="locked"]I apologize folks..
    I meant the US leg of 2010.
    Some of the poorest quality ever..
    I was actually hoping someone could attempt in an unofficial capacity
    Because the band is never going to revisit those shows..
    And as great the setlists were for New York,
    Boston 2010 got more (I'm going to be a "homer" here)
    But:
    Release (one of the best vocals for Ed is ages)
    Crown of Thorns
    Undone
    Pilate
    Rival
    All in one show???
    Boston 10 is my favo boot from usa 10 by far...
    and 27 shows..and i dont think we ever played this one here,so....[/quote]

    A great night, a better show. I would love to see this happen!
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • andrewbandrewb Posts: 483
    2006 has my favorite sound and those were released days after the show...
    PJ
    6/03/06 6/24/08 6/25/08 6/28/08 8/28/09 10/30/09 10/31/09 3/13/10 5/15/10 5/18/10 5/20/10 5/21/10 9/3/11 9/4/11 9/2/12 10/18/13 10/19/13 10/25/13

    Ed Ved
    8/5/08 6/12/09 6/21/11 6/22/11

    Brad
    5/23/12

    Soundgarden
    7/9/11 1/23/13
  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 6,060
    SVRDhand13" said:
    [quote="smanchac1"]

    Maybe re release Boston, Newark and New York. Those shows were epic, and rival pj 20 IMO (the New York shows should have been the pj 20 setlists)
    Interesting way of looking at it. I was at all four of those shows and I tend to agree.

    As for 2010 sound- I agree a better job could have been done, but at least they actually released all the shows :roll:.[/quote]

    Throw in Hartford and I think that is as good a five show stretch as they have ever played.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • I don't mind 2010 mix, but Boston and Newark are pretty rough. Otherwise, they are far better than 2008 and more dynamic than 2000,03,and 05. For the amount of time that would have to go into mixing these shows and just being able to have them, I am content with all the boots we have received with the exception of 2008 which are muddy and dull. I believe the band must have taken some of these complaints into account, 2011 was rock solid and 2012 has some of the best live recordings I have heard.

    I'm usually in the minority with this, but 2003 (along with 08 and most of 09) is my least favorite mix. It is obvious most on this board do not care how the drums are mixed and at what level. 2012 and 2000 Euro are my favorite sounding boots.
    Bonnaroo 2008
    Bristow 2010
    Atlanta 2012
    Charlottesville 2013
    Charlotte 2013

    For your bootleg review needs or recommendations- http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
  • 2010 aren't too bad. Maybe try not listening to them on an iPod? Decent stereo set up (home/car) makes a world of difference. Also, mp3's just aren't all that great sound wise.
  • 2-feign-reluctance" said:
    2010 aren't too bad. Maybe try not listening to them on an iPod? Decent stereo set up (home/car) makes a world of difference. Also, mp3's just aren't all that great sound wise.
    Most of us, well over half I'm guessing, aren't using audio setups to where we will notice a huge difference between mp3 and flac (or cd for that matter). Some sizable minority can tell the differences, most cannot. The difference will certainly not change how the mix sounds to one's ear, which seems to be the major complaint. Nonetheless, I agree with you completely in that having a decent stereo or pair of headphones is important when judging how something is mixed or sounds. I'm not saying we all need 200 dollar headphones or 700 dollar speakers, but the god awful headphones that come with an ipod or 10 dollar Skullcandy's will not do the trick. :fp:
    Bonnaroo 2008
    Bristow 2010
    Atlanta 2012
    Charlottesville 2013
    Charlotte 2013

    For your bootleg review needs or recommendations- http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 6,060
    Would you contribute to a Kickstarter to fund this? I think I would.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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