No Assault Weapons Ban

JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
edited March 2013 in A Moving Train
Dropped by the Democratic leadership of the Senate.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... -bill?lite

"The assault weapons ban won't be included in major gun legislation set to take shape this week -- all but guaranteeing it won't pass Congress.

The ban hasn't been expected to pass, but the way Democratic leaders have decided to handle Sen. Dianne Feinstein's proposal means that she might see a dozen or more Democrats vote against the ban.

Feinstein said she's "disappointed" that it's turned out this way. She said that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told her about his decision at a meeting Monday afternoon."



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Shame on Congress indeed.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SCPosts: 2,958
    yes, shame on them.
    Mine is mine and yours won't take its place.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 11,039
    Oh good, maybe I'll get that bazooka I always wanted for Christmas this year.

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 14,943
    Who REALLY ever thought that assault weapon ban would pass through this Congress? It was NEVER GOING to happen any time in this decade. Most appear to want to keep things as they are and enforce what inadequate laws we currently have on the books....some appear to NOT want to even increase background checks...go figure.

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 13,423
    the question is how many more massacres is it gonna take before something is done legislatively?

    nothing is ever going to change.

    congress always does what is politically expedient, and most times it is never the right thing.

    someone needs to fall on their fucking sword and risk losing an election to stand up for what they believe in. if i were elected i would. hell. if i got ousted by the voters i would just write my memoirs, or be a speaker or a contributor to a blog or tv show. i would end up richer than if i had stayed in congress lol...
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  • 8181 Looking for one Milwaukee GA, PM if you can help. Thanks in advance. Hope to see you soon. or notPosts: 58,276
    seems they finally came to their senses.

    nice to see the political process work.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 125,217
    enjoy the next funerals you idiots of the Congress
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  • 8181 Looking for one Milwaukee GA, PM if you can help. Thanks in advance. Hope to see you soon. or notPosts: 58,276
    no need for name calling
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  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USAPosts: 303
    People kill people. Are they going to ban our minds and personalities ??
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  • 8181 Looking for one Milwaukee GA, PM if you can help. Thanks in advance. Hope to see you soon. or notPosts: 58,276
    at the end of the day, not enough people wanted the change.....

    that's called democracy....
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  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    Unfortunately, our votes don't have the same stopping power as an assault rifle.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/1 ... story.html

    And to answer the question asked earlier, no. I did not expect anything different from this Congress.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 11,039
    mcgavinj" said:
    People kill people. Are they going to ban our minds and personalities ??
    No. And the killing won't stop and we're all fucked. But maybe we can at least try to stop the violence. I have close friends and relations who are gun supporters. Now if I could just get some of them to at least as equally be in favor of supporting life. Some are, but not all. If we spent as much energy stopping violence as we do manufacturing and distributing weapons of death we might get closer to being more supportive of life.

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  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    Did someone in your congressional delegation take money from the NRA?

    http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips. ... te=&sort=N
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPROPosts: 125,217
    JimmyV" said:
    Unfortunately, our votes don't have the same stopping power as an assault rifle.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/1 ... story.html

    And to answer the question asked earlier, no. I did not expect anything different from this Congress.
    at least America is safe from Kinder Surprise Eggs..thats something..
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  • 8181 Looking for one Milwaukee GA, PM if you can help. Thanks in advance. Hope to see you soon. or notPosts: 58,276
    dimitrispearljam" said:
    [quote="JimmyV"]Unfortunately, our votes don't have the same stopping power as an assault rifle.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/1 ... story.html

    And to answer the question asked earlier, no. I did not expect anything different from this Congress.
    at least America is safe from Kinder Surprise Eggs..thats something..[/quote]

    feel free to get US citizen ship and vote.
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  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USAPosts: 303
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    Yep!
  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USAPosts: 303
    brianlux" said:
    [quote="mcgavinj"]People kill people. Are they going to ban our minds and personalities ??
    No. And the killing won't stop and we're all fucked. But maybe we can at least try to stop the violence. I have close friends and relations who are gun supporters. Now if I could just get some of them to at least as equally be in favor of supporting life. Some are, but not all. If we spent as much energy stopping violence as we do manufacturing and distributing weapons of death we might get closer to being more supportive of life.[/quote]



    This is a tough topic for all. The guns will still be out there. People who want use them for violence will still use them for violence. I just hate to see the constitution re-written any more than it already has
  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    mcgavinj" said:
    [quote="brianlux"][quote="mcgavinj"]People kill people. Are they going to ban our minds and personalities ??
    No. And the killing won't stop and we're all fucked. But maybe we can at least try to stop the violence. I have close friends and relations who are gun supporters. Now if I could just get some of them to at least as equally be in favor of supporting life. Some are, but not all. If we spent as much energy stopping violence as we do manufacturing and distributing weapons of death we might get closer to being more supportive of life.[/quote]



    This is a tough topic for all. The guns will still be out there. People who want use them for violence will still use them for violence. I just hate to see the constitution re-written any more than it already has[/quote]

    The only change to the constitution I can think of that was not an improvement was Prohibition and that was quickly repealed. What re-writes are you thinking of that were not improvements?
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    mcgavinj" said:
    [quote="brianlux"][quote="mcgavinj"]People kill people. Are they going to ban our minds and personalities ??
    No. And the killing won't stop and we're all fucked. But maybe we can at least try to stop the violence. I have close friends and relations who are gun supporters. Now if I could just get some of them to at least as equally be in favor of supporting life. Some are, but not all. If we spent as much energy stopping violence as we do manufacturing and distributing weapons of death we might get closer to being more supportive of life.[/quote]



    This is a tough topic for all. The guns will still be out there. People who want use them for violence will still use them for violence. I just hate to see the constitution re-written any more than it already has[/quote]

    Speaking of the constitution... It's a document that's how old? Written 225 years ago? And we still follow it word for word? Is this sane? The number of people screaming that we must live according to a document over 200 years old doesn't sound a bit insane to some of you? Anyone? What would our forefathers have thought? Has anyone else ever wondered this???
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    Jeanwah" said:

    Speaking of the constitution... It's a document that's how old? Written 225 years ago? And we still follow it word for word? Is this sane? The number of people screaming that we must live according to a document over 200 years old doesn't sound a bit insane to some of you? Anyone? What would our forefathers have thought? Has anyone else ever wondered this???
    you know...there is a mechnism to change it ;)
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 12,922
    Fuck it , let the killings just continue if Newtown wasn't enough nothing ever will fuck it just arm everybody and shoot eachother to hell .....What a fucked up Country yeah i said it USA is a fucked up nation ....
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 13,423
    Jeanwah" said:
    Speaking of the constitution... It's a document that's how old? Written 225 years ago? And we still follow it word for word? Is this sane? The number of people screaming that we must live according to a document over 200 years old doesn't sound a bit insane to some of you? Anyone? What would our forefathers have thought? Has anyone else ever wondered this???
    the constitution is new compared to the bible, which was written almost 2000 years ago and people still follow that and take it literally. hell, there is a 10 hour miniseries on the bible on the history channel. yes, HISTORY channel :fp:

    i think the forefathers would be embarrassed by, and in some cases aghast, at the federal government today.
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SCPosts: 2,958
    The 16th amendment sucks
    Mine is mine and yours won't take its place.

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  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USAPosts: 303
    I'm gonna get hung in town square for this......


    If you don't want to live, uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States of America.....
    There may be other countries willing to review your petition for citizenship.
  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    mcgavinj" said:
    I'm gonna get hung in town square for this......


    If you don't want to live, uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States of America.....
    There may be other countries willing to review your petition for citizenship.
    I'm not going to hang you anywhere. Just curious, based on one of your earlier posts, what changes to the constitution you view as being negatives.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    Last-12-Exit" said:
    The 16th amendment sucks
    That might be the only possible example.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,318
    gimmesometruth27" said:
    [quote="Jeanwah"] Speaking of the constitution... It's a document that's how old? Written 225 years ago? And we still follow it word for word? Is this sane? The number of people screaming that we must live according to a document over 200 years old doesn't sound a bit insane to some of you? Anyone? What would our forefathers have thought? Has anyone else ever wondered this???
    the constitution is new compared to the bible, which was written almost 2000 years ago and people still follow that and take it literally. hell, there is a 10 hour miniseries on the bible on the history channel. yes, HISTORY channel :fp:

    i think the forefathers would be embarrassed by, and in some cases aghast, at the federal government today.[/quote]


    you are right, they would say it is too god damn big :lol:

    I think the forefathers would be proud that the document they wrote still survived and provided freedom for many millions of people over the years. Although I think they would wonder how a Black man became president, how women were voting, and how on earth there came to be a federal income tax...

    I don't have to wonder that...it was through the amendment process they created because they knew times would change. Once you start ignoring certain parts of the document you don't like, why wouldn't the whole thing eventually get ignored? It is all about who's ox is being gored I guess...I am sure there are still those that would love to ignore the 13th,16th, 20th and so on...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 13,423
    mcgavinj" said:
    I'm gonna get hung in town square for this......


    If you don't want to live, uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States of America.....
    There may be other countries willing to review your petition for citizenship.
    ahh the old 2003 sentiment of "if you don't like it, you can get out!!"

    it is my country too. it is my belief that the constitution could use an upgrade. are you saying i should leave for being a progressive?
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  • JimmyVJimmyV BostonPosts: 7,178
    mikepegg44" said:
    [quote="gimmesometruth27"][quote="Jeanwah"] Speaking of the constitution... It's a document that's how old? Written 225 years ago? And we still follow it word for word? Is this sane? The number of people screaming that we must live according to a document over 200 years old doesn't sound a bit insane to some of you? Anyone? What would our forefathers have thought? Has anyone else ever wondered this???
    the constitution is new compared to the bible, which was written almost 2000 years ago and people still follow that and take it literally. hell, there is a 10 hour miniseries on the bible on the history channel. yes, HISTORY channel :fp:

    i think the forefathers would be embarrassed by, and in some cases aghast, at the federal government today.[/quote]


    you are right, they would say it is too god damn big :lol:

    I think the forefathers would be proud that the document they wrote still survived and provided freedom for many millions of people over the years. Although I think they would wonder how a Black man became president, how women were voting, and how on earth there came to be a federal income tax...

    I don't have to wonder that...it was through the amendment process they created because they knew times would change. Once you start ignoring certain parts of the document you don't like, why wouldn't the whole thing eventually get ignored? It is all about who's ox is being gored I guess...I am sure there are still those that would love to ignore the 13th,16th, 20th and so on...[/quote]

    And they would have been horrified by the types of weapons that are readily available to the modern American. Horrified.
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  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USAPosts: 303
    JimmyV" said:
    [quote="mcgavinj"]I'm gonna get hung in town square for this......


    If you don't want to live, uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States of America.....
    There may be other countries willing to review your petition for citizenship.
    I'm not going to hang you anywhere. Just curious, based on one of your earlier posts, what changes to the constitution you view as being negatives.[/quote]


    I tried to correct my statement in saying not necessarily changes already made ...but the more changes that are made the easier it will be to continue changing it. Where do we stop? Free speech? Term limits?
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