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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,544
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!

    You forgot.... "loser and overrated "
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    Bentleyspop said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!

    You forgot.... "loser and overrated "
    My bad.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!

    If he was smart he would keep the word treason on the downlow considering his circumstances. But we all know Trump isn't smart.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Your move Julian
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    dignin said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    How long before Trump tweets TREASON and SAD!!!!!

    If he was smart he would keep the word treason on the downlow considering his circumstances. But we all know Trump isn't smart.
    He probably isn't familiar with that word because it contains his least favorite word, reason.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
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    EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    mickeyrat said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
    Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    EM194007 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
    Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
    Details!!!! Definitions!!!!
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    edited January 2017
    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
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    EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    CM189191 said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
    Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    edited January 2017
    EM194007 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
    Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
    heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters...
    Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15130B?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=587ea32004d3017f13759670&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
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    EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    mickeyrat said:

    EM194007 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Actions have consequesnces. Commutation still shows she was legally wrong in the this data dump. She admits so. Said so during trial and pled guilty without benefit of a plea deal. Shows just how vindictive the government can be. Heres to hoping these last few months are easier on her than the previous 7 years.
    Trust me, I know the difference very well. By CM189191 stating next move Julian above, he is saying that Assange should turn himself in. That wasn't the deal, Commutation. It was he would turn himself in if a Pardon/Clemency was given.
    heres why he said that. from an article by Reuters...
    Just last Thursday, anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, the recipient of materials from Manning, tweeted that its founder Julian Assange would agree to extradition if Manning was released.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15130B?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=587ea32004d3017f13759670&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
    Didn't he specifically state a Pardon, not just released by Commutation.

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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
    Commutation means your let out of jail with all charges still on your record, Commutation does not void the conviction. A Pardon/Clemency the convicted offender is forgiven of the crime and its penalty. Nice try, but two huge differences.
    It really doesn't matter. We don't negotiate with terrorists anyways.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    Wow....Assange says he will serve time in prison if Obama grants Manning clemency.

    Not many humans walking the earth would offer that exchange, especially knowing the broomsticks that are literally waiting for his ass.

    Sounds like. Assange is ready for the broomsticks.

    Assange attorney:
    Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Wow....Assange says he will serve time in prison if Obama grants Manning clemency.

    Not many humans walking the earth would offer that exchange, especially knowing the broomsticks that are literally waiting for his ass.

    Sounds like. Assange is ready for the broomsticks.

    Assange attorney:
    Manning extradition 'deal': "Everything that he has said he's standing by."
    as was noted above Clemency isnt commutation. Which is what Assange was "trading" for.
    Still she has a long 4 months ahead of her. lets try to keep some of the focus there.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited January 2017
    CM189191 said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
    Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he needs to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night. :lol:
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJ_Soul said:

    CM189191 said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
    Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night. :lol:
    Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutation
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited January 2017
    CM189191 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    CM189191 said:

    EM194007 said:

    CM189191 said:

    Your move Julian

    Why should he do anything? Obama didn't give Manning a Pardon/Clemency. Big difference between a Pardon/Clemency and a Commutation.
    Not really...

    Clemency under the criminal justice system is the act by an executive member of government of extending mercy to a convicted individual. In the United States, clemency is granted by a governor for state crimes and by a president for federal crimes. Clemency can take one of three forms: a reprieve, a commutation of sentence, or a pardon
    Ah-ha. Well well, Assange in prison, eh? It's certainly an interesting side note to the Manning saga. I wonder how much impact Assange's little promise had on the decision?? I guess he need to assume a whole lot if he wants to sleep well at night. :lol:
    Obama said at press conference Assange's deal wasn't taken into consideration in Manning's commutation
    Well of course that's what he said, but just wondering if it actually was (FTR, I seriously doubt it).
    At any rate, apparently Assange is backing out of the deal. Again. Lol.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    Assange is making this about him. Like a good luttle narcissist.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    mickeyrat said:

    Assange is making this about him. Like a good luttle narcissist.

    Yeah, I think that guy is pretty fucked up.... Where the hell is Snowden when we need him?? :tongue:
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    edited May 2017
    release day on wed...
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    She is released but is still unpaid active duty pending appeal of courts martial. access to most services (medical, dental on base stores etc). assigned to an undisclosed base.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,158
    mickeyrat said:
    She is released but is still unpaid active duty pending appeal of courts martial. access to most services (medical, dental on base stores etc). assigned to an undisclosed base.
    well at least she is out. i had a feeling trump et al would have sought additional charges or tried to find a way to keep her locked up.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    Senator Manning?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/chelsea-manning-files-to-run-for-us-senate-in-maryland/2018/01/13/6439f0d0-f88c-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.e94a441dd6b8

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,605
    mickeyrat said:
    Senator Manning?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/chelsea-manning-files-to-run-for-us-senate-in-maryland/2018/01/13/6439f0d0-f88c-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.e94a441dd6b8

    She won’t get elected.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,775
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Senator Manning?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/chelsea-manning-files-to-run-for-us-senate-in-maryland/2018/01/13/6439f0d0-f88c-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.e94a441dd6b8

    She won’t get elected.
    oh, I dont expect so either but like with Pres Shithole, you never know anymore do you?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,158
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Senator Manning?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/chelsea-manning-files-to-run-for-us-senate-in-maryland/2018/01/13/6439f0d0-f88c-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.e94a441dd6b8

    She won’t get elected.
    you never know. strange days we are in here.
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