Sean McDermott. I don't have much of an opinion on the guy, but I think we have to give him 4-5 years. The revolving door at coach isn't helping. Either is hiring the the wrong HC *cough cough...Rex Ryan. Can't believe his mall Santa of a brother Rob is being considered for the defensive coordinator of the Redskins.
While I do agree in theory... I do not agree in practice.
The Bills' problems have nothing to do with the revolving door of coaches. It has much more to do with the piss poor management and ownership that has been in place since the team's inception over 50 years ago.
The coaches that they bring in and a churning out are worth diddly shit. None of them get head coaching jobs anywhere. The only two who have landed head coaching positions are the two who voluntarily walked the plank and quit the Bills because of said bad management and too many poison apples pulling strings.
When Pegula finally decides to change the 51 year failed course of Ralph Wilson's crusty NFL Franchise... it will be more obvious
Sean McDermott. I don't have much of an opinion on the guy, but I think we have to give him 4-5 years. The revolving door at coach isn't helping. Either is hiring the the wrong HC *cough cough...Rex Ryan. Can't believe his mall Santa of a brother Rob is being considered for the defensive coordinator of the Redskins.
While I do agree in theory... I do not agree in practice.
The Bills' problems have nothing to do with the revolving door of coaches. It has much more to do with the piss poor management and ownership that has been in place since the team's inception over 50 years ago.
The coaches that they bring in and a churning out are worth diddly shit. None of them get head coaching jobs anywhere. The only two who have landed head coaching positions are the two who voluntarily walked the plank and quit the Bills because of said bad management and too many poison apples pulling strings.
When Pegula finally decides to change the 51 year failed course of Ralph Wilson's crusty NFL Franchise... it will be more obvious
I agree with you that Wilson has failed Buffalo fans for the longest time. Are you happy with the McDermott hire? I don't feel strongly either way and a lot of coaches they have brought in seem to be total shit who couldn't get a job anywhere else as you mentioned. Is there a particular coach you wanted? I'm just curious to see what other Buffalo fans think.
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I am not much of a fan of Whaley and I can't believe Russ Brandon is still associated with this franchise.
Sean McDermott. I don't have much of an opinion on the guy, but I think we have to give him 4-5 years. The revolving door at coach isn't helping. Either is hiring the the wrong HC *cough cough...Rex Ryan. Can't believe his mall Santa of a brother Rob is being considered for the defensive coordinator of the Redskins.
While I do agree in theory... I do not agree in practice.
The Bills' problems have nothing to do with the revolving door of coaches. It has much more to do with the piss poor management and ownership that has been in place since the team's inception over 50 years ago.
The coaches that they bring in and a churning out are worth diddly shit. None of them get head coaching jobs anywhere. The only two who have landed head coaching positions are the two who voluntarily walked the plank and quit the Bills because of said bad management and too many poison apples pulling strings.
When Pegula finally decides to change the 51 year failed course of Ralph Wilson's crusty NFL Franchise... it will be more obvious
I agree with you that Wilson has failed Buffalo fans for the longest time. Are you happy with the McDermott hire? I don't feel strongly either way and a lot of coaches they have brought in seem to be total shit who couldn't get a job anywhere else as you mentioned. Is there a particular coach you wanted? I'm just curious to see what other Buffalo fans think.
PS
I am not much of a fan of Whaley and I can't believe Russ Brandon is still associated with this franchise.
I like McDermott... especially over the prospect of promoting Anthony Lynn, and really changing very little. McDermott seems to be the anti-Rex. Extreme attention to detail which is nice. I also like the young-factor. Should be going to the 4-3 which is better suited for the personnel... however lacking a bit in OLB and S (and CB if Gilmore bolts). This reminds me a little bit of the Gregg Williams hire though. All these guys lose a lot of luster once they drive off the lot and the footballs fly.
Like I mentioned above. If I got my wish, I would have had Pegula clean house of the 'lifers' in Brandon, Whaley, Berchtold, Overdorf, Training and Equipment Staff, etc... and brought in Nick Cesario from New England to be the team President on a long-term contract. He would build the program, and would likely choose Josh McDaniels or Matt Patricia for HC. The runner-up prize would be if they did similar and installed Coughlin as President/Consultant.
The problem with McDermott is, even if he is capable, they are dealing him cards from a tainted deck. Whaley has had public friction with the last 2 head coaches. The same people are behind the scenes being involved in football matters. The Pegulas themselves are way too involved. Absolutely nobody in that front office has been involved in a winning organization or know what it looks like. Every few years, these people seem to be able to buy themselves more time with these coaching 'resets'. As a fan, I am not willing to just put my faith in the new coaching hire and give it 5 years to bear fruit. If things hit the skids next season, I am going to want them to napalm the front office. I have been at this point for 10 years with these guys.
Sean McDermott. I don't have much of an opinion on the guy, but I think we have to give him 4-5 years. The revolving door at coach isn't helping. Either is hiring the the wrong HC *cough cough...Rex Ryan. Can't believe his mall Santa of a brother Rob is being considered for the defensive coordinator of the Redskins.
While I do agree in theory... I do not agree in practice.
The Bills' problems have nothing to do with the revolving door of coaches. It has much more to do with the piss poor management and ownership that has been in place since the team's inception over 50 years ago.
The coaches that they bring in and a churning out are worth diddly shit. None of them get head coaching jobs anywhere. The only two who have landed head coaching positions are the two who voluntarily walked the plank and quit the Bills because of said bad management and too many poison apples pulling strings.
When Pegula finally decides to change the 51 year failed course of Ralph Wilson's crusty NFL Franchise... it will be more obvious
I agree with you that Wilson has failed Buffalo fans for the longest time. Are you happy with the McDermott hire? I don't feel strongly either way and a lot of coaches they have brought in seem to be total shit who couldn't get a job anywhere else as you mentioned. Is there a particular coach you wanted? I'm just curious to see what other Buffalo fans think.
PS
I am not much of a fan of Whaley and I can't believe Russ Brandon is still associated with this franchise.
I like McDermott... especially over the prospect of promoting Anthony Lynn, and really changing very little. McDermott seems to be the anti-Rex. Extreme attention to detail which is nice. I also like the young-factor. Should be going to the 4-3 which is better suited for the personnel... however lacking a bit in OLB and S (and CB if Gilmore bolts). This reminds me a little bit of the Gregg Williams hire though. All these guys lose a lot of luster once they drive off the lot and the footballs fly.
Like I mentioned above. If I got my wish, I would have had Pegula clean house of the 'lifers' in Brandon, Whaley, Berchtold, Overdorf, Training and Equipment Staff, etc... and brought in Nick Cesario from New England to be the team President on a long-term contract. He would build the program, and would likely choose Josh McDaniels or Matt Patricia for HC. The runner-up prize would be if they did similar and installed Coughlin as President/Consultant.
The problem with McDermott is, even if he is capable, they are dealing him cards from a tainted deck. Whaley has had public friction with the last 2 head coaches. The same people are behind the scenes being involved in football matters. The Pegulas themselves are way too involved. Absolutely nobody in that front office has been involved in a winning organization or know what it looks like. Every few years, these people seem to be able to buy themselves more time with these coaching 'resets'. As a fan, I am not willing to just put my faith in the new coaching hire and give it 5 years to bear fruit. If things hit the skids next season, I am going to want them to napalm the front office. I have been at this point for 10 years with these guys.
Napalm the front office. I like the sounds of that. I wonder if these idiots even care about winning sometimes. I know they very much care about ticket sales. They won't get my money.
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I think you guys made a quality hire for once. As an Eagles fan I've always been a fan of McDermott and was really pissed when Andy Reid got rid of him after only one season as the d coordinator. He's young but he's plenty experienced and learned from one of the best in Jim Johnson, RIP.
One interesting tidbit that you might not be aware of. Looks like one of his first hires was Juan Castillo to be the offensive line coach. Who was the guy Andy Reid replaced McDermott at defensive coordinator?......yup, his offensive line coach at the time, Juan Castillo. Probably the dumbest personnel move in the team's history which obviously failed miserably. Thought it was pretty ironic to see McDermott hire him right away...
sayonarra sammy watkins? WTF are they doin' up there?
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sayonarra sammy watkins? WTF are they doin' up there?
They should have never moved up to draft him. Just 1 of the reasons Doug Whaley is gone. Can't predict injuries, but Evans and ODB were available if Sammy was gone by their original pick.
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It's a great example of how jaded Buffalo fans are when the team is 5-2 and there hasn't been a post here since May. I guess we are all waiting for the inevitable collapse? Made a couple of trades this week that I like.
I post in a couple other forums about the bills. It rarely occurs to me to post here.
People in buffalo are pretty optimistic about the new management for the most part. Even if the depth catches up to them this season, good times are ahead
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It's a great example of how jaded Buffalo fans are when the team is 5-2 and there hasn't been a post here since May. I guess we are all waiting for the inevitable collapse? Made a couple of trades this week that I like.
Just in time to get our ass kicked on primetime by the stinking Jets...
I think everyone in Buffalo was waiting for that shoe to drop.
The fact is, that this is early in a rebuild/process. 5-3 halfway through is great right now. They have a lot of draft picks coming up and a revamped scouting department based in modern times as opposed to what we have had to endure. There currently is no depth at all in most positions, and even some of the starting positions have warm body fillers in there.
Just as troubling is the Saints defense, who is finally good with some top level athletes. 6 Game winning streak.
It would be a huge statement win, especially following up with @Chargers, @Chiefs and New England. I would take 2-2 in this stretch any day of the week to get to 7-5.... with Colts, Dolphins, Pats, @ Dolphins to close it out.
Pretty cool, fellas. Coming from upstate New York where it was split like 75/25 Giants/Bill I certainly am not a bills fan by any stretch of the imagination, but really happy for a lot of people and have a soft spot for them. My brother in law is beyond pumped. They're gonna win next week
I can't believe they got in. Being a die hard cubs and bills fan has been rough. But hey, the cubs did it!
They can beat Jax. Then on to Foxboro...
yep, they can.
taylor > bortles.
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The Bills' problems have nothing to do with the revolving door of coaches. It has much more to do with the piss poor management and ownership that has been in place since the team's inception over 50 years ago.
The coaches that they bring in and a churning out are worth diddly shit. None of them get head coaching jobs anywhere. The only two who have landed head coaching positions are the two who voluntarily walked the plank and quit the Bills because of said bad management and too many poison apples pulling strings.
When Pegula finally decides to change the 51 year failed course of Ralph Wilson's crusty NFL Franchise... it will be more obvious
PS
I am not much of a fan of Whaley and I can't believe Russ Brandon is still associated with this franchise.
This reminds me a little bit of the Gregg Williams hire though. All these guys lose a lot of luster once they drive off the lot and the footballs fly.
Like I mentioned above. If I got my wish, I would have had Pegula clean house of the 'lifers' in Brandon, Whaley, Berchtold, Overdorf, Training and Equipment Staff, etc... and brought in Nick Cesario from New England to be the team President on a long-term contract. He would build the program, and would likely choose Josh McDaniels or Matt Patricia for HC. The runner-up prize would be if they did similar and installed Coughlin as President/Consultant.
The problem with McDermott is, even if he is capable, they are dealing him cards from a tainted deck. Whaley has had public friction with the last 2 head coaches. The same people are behind the scenes being involved in football matters. The Pegulas themselves are way too involved. Absolutely nobody in that front office has been involved in a winning organization or know what it looks like. Every few years, these people seem to be able to buy themselves more time with these coaching 'resets'. As a fan, I am not willing to just put my faith in the new coaching hire and give it 5 years to bear fruit. If things hit the skids next season, I am going to want them to napalm the front office. I have been at this point for 10 years with these guys.
One interesting tidbit that you might not be aware of. Looks like one of his first hires was Juan Castillo to be the offensive line coach. Who was the guy Andy Reid replaced McDermott at defensive coordinator?......yup, his offensive line coach at the time, Juan Castillo. Probably the dumbest personnel move in the team's history which obviously failed miserably. Thought it was pretty ironic to see McDermott hire him right away...
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They should have never moved up to draft him. Just 1 of the reasons Doug Whaley is gone. Can't predict injuries, but Evans and ODB were available if Sammy was gone by their original pick.
People in buffalo are pretty optimistic about the new management for the most part. Even if the depth catches up to them this season, good times are ahead
The fact is, that this is early in a rebuild/process. 5-3 halfway through is great right now. They have a lot of draft picks coming up and a revamped scouting department based in modern times as opposed to what we have had to endure. There currently is no depth at all in most positions, and even some of the starting positions have warm body fillers in there.
Just as troubling is the Saints defense, who is finally good with some top level athletes. 6 Game winning streak.
It would be a huge statement win, especially following up with @Chargers, @Chiefs and New England. I would take 2-2 in this stretch any day of the week to get to 7-5.... with Colts, Dolphins, Pats, @ Dolphins to close it out.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
They can beat Jax. Then on to Foxboro...
we will find a way, we will find our place
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
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yep, they can.
taylor > bortles.
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St. Paul 14, Denver 14
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
See, these fans deserve this....if only for a week.
Now, as for people that don't deserve it....
He's a microcosm for the fact that Patriots fans have become more insufferable than Yankees fans.
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