I dont own Ten(reissue) ,Pearl Jam ,No code. Few months ago got Vitalogy. ITs just i newer even seen those cd-s in our stores.But i have Riot Act on legal tapes(yes you can still buy some stuff on tape:))doubled!DO not even think any other releases.also have Single Video Theory(was on sale:))Dont like buying in internet :( Please do not stone me!
I don't own Ten- reissue too, just because... first - i thing the origina Ten was great, second - I heard SOLAT from Ten - reissue and IMO this what They did to this the greatset ever song was sooo .... hmmm... sad, and third - i will buy it, because I feel i must to support them even I think it was bad idea to reissue it, but not now\, when i expect the new album...
Anyway - Back to Your post - Backspacer is my first cd of PJ which I bought by internet, I don't count the formers whoch i had on tapes (too).
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if you claim to be a PJ fan and don't have one of their eight albums (so far), that is in fact pretty questionable. i mean they avg an album every 2-3 years. you can't scrape together enough time and money to support them?
I have grown to like Binaural more and more over time.
For me though, (don't get mad - I said for ME) the album was brilliant in parts (Of the Girl, Nothing as it Seems, Sleight of Hand, Parting ways, Grievance and Insignificance)
....and very weak in other parts: (Evacuation, Light Years, Thin Air).
Of the Girl itself make it worth owning
I completely agree. Those songs that you labeled as "brilliant" are some of the best tunes the band has put out. While those three "weak" songs are good, I do agree they aren't as high up on my list of the songs for the album, and I skip those three songs often, especially evacuation. Insignificane is one of my favorite Pearl Jam songs. This was actually the third album of the band's that I listened to, after VS and Riot Act.
Binaural is easily my favorite album...then again, I'm not a huge fan of Ten (comparable to the rest of their releases), and love Riot Act...so who am I to tell you what's good in PJ's catalog?
Anyone who doesn't own Binaural should be punched in the dick and banned from Ten Club....and forced to wear a symbol like a yellow star or something.
:shock:
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it's the first studio release that i didn't fall for right away and it led me to stray from my intense fandom for a few years. it was a busy time in my life too, so that had something to do with not having the time to devote to digest it. i had a similar lukewarm reaction after riot act. looking back (and after listening over and over to many of the boots from both tours), i am completely crushed that i missed out. back around '03 a new friend who was a huge fan told me how much he really liked both. i gave them both another listen, many in fact. for whatever reason...an honest open mind, a more settled time in my life..whatever, they both really moved me. it re-ignited my PJ obsession, which began in 1992 but seemed destined to fizzle. there are just some great, great compositions on binaural.
slightly on/off topic...on Light Years, has Ed ever said whose "light made us stars?" i always wondered if he was talking about andrew wood in the song, but that's just a guess. anyone?
I say at this point you hold off on getting it. Get into Backspacer for a few months, pick some of the other albums to get you through the rest of the summer, and next June buy Binaural and go for a long drive...
Trust me.
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
I say at this point you hold off on getting it. Get into Backspacer for a few months, pick some of the other albums to get you through the rest of the summer, and next June buy Binaural and go for a long drive...
Trust me.
Horrible advice. He needs to get Binaural as soon as possible, get some good headphones(or just crank the hell out of it), a doobie, and a nice spot where he won't be interrupted and LISTEN.
if you claim to be a PJ fan and don't have one of their eight albums (so far), that is in fact pretty questionable. i mean they avg an album every 2-3 years. you can't scrape together enough time and money to support them?
no wonder nobody likes you.
I know, its eating me up inside. I'm hoping that the postman comes today with it - but they keep on striking. :roll:
if you claim to be a PJ fan and don't have one of their eight albums (so far), that is in fact pretty questionable. i mean they avg an album every 2-3 years. you can't scrape together enough time and money to support them?
no wonder nobody likes you.
I know, its eating me up inside. I'm hoping that the postman comes today with it - but they keep on striking. :roll:
With resepct to people not owning every album, I think it's good to get each one, listen to it properly and enjoy it, then get another one. Why buy 8 albums the moment you get into the band and not appreciate each one individually? Those of us who are old enough to have been about since the early days got to appreciate and digest each one individually as they were released, so I'd recommend doing it that way - preferably in order, if you are really new to the band and want to get to know their catalogue.
And Spaggles... I trust that we'll get your opinion on the binaural experience if the blasted postie ever delivers it. won't we?
I first heard the Ten album after stealing my mates CD walkman and some of his music to listen to while on holiday in Spain. I had Rage Against The Machine, The Goats, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and this album that I had only heard the intro to and Alive. I think thats right (around '93), anyway I remember lying by a pool in the baking heat, listening to it and thinking it was pretty good. The rest of the music I had with me seemed far more suited to the holiday mood though and it was only when I returned to rainy England that it started to soak in.
VS first got played in my mum's car after picking it up on tape, that album blew me away right from the start despite her shitty speakers and being told to turn it down.
Vitalogy was a very different experience, I recorded Spin the Black Circle off the radio and played it to death. Then a mate came by my house with a tape of the whole album which had yet to be released and I sat in my parents dinning room (really gothic setting with a staned glass window, waxy candle stickholders and red velvet chairs) and played it loud expecting a VS earfucking instead getting something with a creepy spiritual vibe to it. I loved it and went to a midnight opening of a local record shop on release day to get a first 'listen' - LOL - and pick up the record. The evening was tainted by me not winning the comp to go see them in the US (I felt like I was the most deserving person in the shop as I expect did everybody else)!
I have made a point of shutting myself away with headphones from then on for each new album (I was at University by the time No Code came out so this was pretty easy and I was smoking a fair bit by that point). So I shall be sure to hide away once Binaural arrives to give it my full attention. Sorry for the longwinded reply, I'm off work today and a bit bored!
I have grown to like Binaural more and more over time.
For me though, (don't get mad - I said for ME) the album was brilliant in parts (Of the Girl, Nothing as it Seems, Sleight of Hand, Parting ways, Grievance and Insignificance)
....and very weak in other parts: (Evacuation, Light Years, Thin Air).
Of the Girl itself make it worth owning
I agree with your sentiments about OTG, NAIS, Insignificance and Parting Ways, however Light Years is a song I love and find it anything but weak. Evacuation is just so so for me, certainly not one of their best songs but not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Love the Binaural album as a whole. Was the last one of theirs I bought and it took a while before I got used to it, but am really glad I did. A PJ fan's collection is not complete without it.
I'm jealous, postman still hasn't shown up with this and there are meant to be more strikes tomorrow...doesn't bode well for Backspacer (my first listen could well end up being via RockBand)!
I've actually been listening to this album quite a bit on my stereo for the past few days, that and Vitalogy. My introduction to the band began with VS, then went to Riot Act, which came out a few months after I started listening to Pearl Jam (I'm young, yeah), and then I jumped to No Code and Binaural, and made my way throughout their catalogue. Binaural is an absolutely great album for me, and it continuously is a great album every time I listen to it.
I don't find it a problem if someone doesn't own every single PJ release -it could be a matter of personal choice or because they don't have the means to buy it and that's not for me to say whether that's right or wrong.
But... having said that I do think it's a bit of a shame not to have their studio albums - that's the way that Pearl Jam wanted us to hear those songs at that point in time. If any tracks are also available as live versions on other albums or bootlegs I see that as a bonus, but not a replacement to having the studio versions.
Give yourself a treat and pick-up Binaural, you won't be sorry
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ahhhh...my beloved Binaural....so misunderstood...so neglected....one day these fools will see the error of their ways!!...till then...let me embrace you lovingly...soaking in every second we share together...tis true love!!
Got home from a rather disastrous pub quiz followed by a lengthy game of darts to find a bundle on the doorstep, just sat right out on the porch for any naughty foxes or thieving scumbags to pick up. It must have been left at around 9am and I got home at midnight Anyways, a t-shirt and bag I'd ordered from 10c had finally arrived from Seattle (I presume that's where the merch comes from), met up at the sorting office with the album I'd ordered from HMV, then some postman had unknowingly united them with a rubberband. Ahhhh.
I was waaaaay too drunk to give it a listen though, but have put it on my iTouch and brought it into work to import to my iTunes here. So close...!!! Love the artwork on this one, the little doodles of the bombs and pineapples...
I own all of their studio albums, sans Lost Dogs, which doesn't really count as much since it's a compilation.
I wanted to buy it, but it's pretty expensive at my local CD store as it's a double album.
After opening with Man of the Hour in Chicago :oops: , I immediately went out & got Lost Dogs.
BTW Binaural is great with real good headphones!
Seems that needlessly it's getting harder, to find an approach and a way to live
Constant Recoil..Sometimes life, Don't leave you alone
When the anxious is the present, unwrap your gifts, take your time
The only one I don't have is Live On Two legs. Don't like live compilations, and is also concered about if I will get in in a digipack or in a keepcase nowadays.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Come on Uncle, listen to the damned album and tell us what you think of it!!! The waiting is driving us mad.
LOL!
I’ve given some thought today as to why I let this album pass me by and I think Binaural came out just before I saw them at Wembley in 2000. I was just about to go travelling around South America for a few months and had very little money so decided to hear the tracks live at the gig and get the album when I returned. Obviously that never happened and I later picked up the Mansfield Massachusetts boot which had most of the songs on there.
The album sounds amazing, the ‘binaural’ effect is very noticeable on a few tracks imo. Of the girl especially with the jangley acoustic in one zone and the Neil Young style power strum off some place else. Really beautiful song. The lower vocal on Breakerfall was a nice surprise as was the cello on Parting Ways - anything that doesn’t translate to the live version basically gave me goosebumps. Still not a fan of Evacuation, I find the chorus a little annoying. The track that was relatively new to me, probably only heard it once before somewhere, was Rival. The dog at the start is awesome and the whoops and yelling, piano, its all just fantastic! Soon forget takes me back to Wembley gig when Eddie took to the stage for an encore and played a ukulele and my head exploded, the thought of him alone on stage in that huge stadium sitting on a stool playing that small instrument just makes me smile every time I hear it. So yeah, bloody great album this, very angry, a little sad and occasionally cheeky. Will be interesting experiencing Backspacer after getting into this one I expect. Played Binaural twice today and could do with something a little uplifting now…maybe I need a fix of The Fixer.
Come on Uncle, listen to the damned album and tell us what you think of it!!! The waiting is driving us mad.
LOL!
I’ve given some thought today as to why I let this album pass me by and I think Binaural came out just before I saw them at Wembley in 2000. I was just about to go travelling around South America for a few months and had very little money so decided to hear the tracks live at the gig and get the album when I returned. Obviously that never happened and I later picked up the Mansfield Massachusetts boot which had most of the songs on there.
The album sounds amazing, the ‘binaural’ effect is very noticeable on a few tracks imo. Of the girl especially with the jangley acoustic in one zone and the Neil Young style power strum off some place else. Really beautiful song. The lower vocal on Breakerfall was a nice surprise as was the cello on Parting Ways - anything that doesn’t translate to the live version basically gave me goosebumps. Still not a fan of Evacuation, I find the chorus a little annoying. The track that was relatively new to me, probably only heard it once before somewhere, was Rival. The dog at the start is awesome and the whoops and yelling, piano, its all just fantastic! Soon forget takes me back to Wembley gig when Eddie took to the stage for an encore and played a ukulele and my head exploded, the thought of him alone on stage in that huge stadium sitting on a stool playing that small instrument just makes me smile every time I hear it. So yeah, bloody great album this, very angry, a little sad and occasionally cheeky. Will be interesting experiencing Backspacer after getting into this one I expect. Played Binaural twice today and could do with something a little uplifting now…maybe I need a fix of The Fixer.
Fit's well in that little collection, doesn't it? Very nice response. Glad you liked it.
'Evacuation' gets a lot of shit for the chorus being "annoying" or "going nowhere" but I think it is clever because of the simplicity. I think Ed is using his voice just like a warning siren - wailing monotonously, panicking. It reminds me of the noise of a WW2 air raid siren (not that I was there, you realise!) and I think that fits the meaning of the song.
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Anyway - Back to Your post - Backspacer is my first cd of PJ which I bought by internet, I don't count the formers whoch i had on tapes (too).
halszka123@op.pl
I wanted to buy it, but it's pretty expensive at my local CD store as it's a double album.
no wonder nobody likes you.
I completely agree. Those songs that you labeled as "brilliant" are some of the best tunes the band has put out. While those three "weak" songs are good, I do agree they aren't as high up on my list of the songs for the album, and I skip those three songs often, especially evacuation. Insignificane is one of my favorite Pearl Jam songs. This was actually the third album of the band's that I listened to, after VS and Riot Act.
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:shock:
slightly on/off topic...on Light Years, has Ed ever said whose "light made us stars?" i always wondered if he was talking about andrew wood in the song, but that's just a guess. anyone?
Trust me.
Horrible advice. He needs to get Binaural as soon as possible, get some good headphones(or just crank the hell out of it), a doobie, and a nice spot where he won't be interrupted and LISTEN.
I know, its eating me up inside. I'm hoping that the postman comes today with it - but they keep on striking. :roll:
With resepct to people not owning every album, I think it's good to get each one, listen to it properly and enjoy it, then get another one. Why buy 8 albums the moment you get into the band and not appreciate each one individually? Those of us who are old enough to have been about since the early days got to appreciate and digest each one individually as they were released, so I'd recommend doing it that way - preferably in order, if you are really new to the band and want to get to know their catalogue.
And Spaggles... I trust that we'll get your opinion on the binaural experience if the blasted postie ever delivers it. won't we?
I first heard the Ten album after stealing my mates CD walkman and some of his music to listen to while on holiday in Spain. I had Rage Against The Machine, The Goats, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and this album that I had only heard the intro to and Alive. I think thats right (around '93), anyway I remember lying by a pool in the baking heat, listening to it and thinking it was pretty good. The rest of the music I had with me seemed far more suited to the holiday mood though and it was only when I returned to rainy England that it started to soak in.
VS first got played in my mum's car after picking it up on tape, that album blew me away right from the start despite her shitty speakers and being told to turn it down.
Vitalogy was a very different experience, I recorded Spin the Black Circle off the radio and played it to death. Then a mate came by my house with a tape of the whole album which had yet to be released and I sat in my parents dinning room (really gothic setting with a staned glass window, waxy candle stickholders and red velvet chairs) and played it loud expecting a VS earfucking instead getting something with a creepy spiritual vibe to it. I loved it and went to a midnight opening of a local record shop on release day to get a first 'listen' - LOL - and pick up the record. The evening was tainted by me not winning the comp to go see them in the US (I felt like I was the most deserving person in the shop as I expect did everybody else)!
I have made a point of shutting myself away with headphones from then on for each new album (I was at University by the time No Code came out so this was pretty easy and I was smoking a fair bit by that point). So I shall be sure to hide away once Binaural arrives to give it my full attention. Sorry for the longwinded reply, I'm off work today and a bit bored!
I agree with your sentiments about OTG, NAIS, Insignificance and Parting Ways, however Light Years is a song I love and find it anything but weak. Evacuation is just so so for me, certainly not one of their best songs but not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Love the Binaural album as a whole. Was the last one of theirs I bought and it took a while before I got used to it, but am really glad I did. A PJ fan's collection is not complete without it.
It's been a long long time.
I found a new appreciation for Rival, which I haven't heard in years. For that, I am thankful.
Otherwise, still a weak PJ album, in my opinion, but it was good to pay a visit.
But I might go cold
I won't get sold
I'll get put in the back
In the discount rack
With Binaural and Riot Act
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
But... having said that I do think it's a bit of a shame not to have their studio albums - that's the way that Pearl Jam wanted us to hear those songs at that point in time. If any tracks are also available as live versions on other albums or bootlegs I see that as a bonus, but not a replacement to having the studio versions.
Give yourself a treat and pick-up Binaural, you won't be sorry
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Got home from a rather disastrous pub quiz followed by a lengthy game of darts to find a bundle on the doorstep, just sat right out on the porch for any naughty foxes or thieving scumbags to pick up. It must have been left at around 9am and I got home at midnight
I was waaaaay too drunk to give it a listen though, but have put it on my iTouch and brought it into work to import to my iTunes here. So close...!!! Love the artwork on this one, the little doodles of the bombs and pineapples...
(I realised how much I love it today when I looked at my '25 most played' on iTunes and 10 of them are Binaural.)
BTW Binaural is great with real good headphones!
Constant Recoil..Sometimes life, Don't leave you alone
When the anxious is the present, unwrap your gifts, take your time
LOL!
I’ve given some thought today as to why I let this album pass me by and I think Binaural came out just before I saw them at Wembley in 2000. I was just about to go travelling around South America for a few months and had very little money so decided to hear the tracks live at the gig and get the album when I returned. Obviously that never happened and I later picked up the Mansfield Massachusetts boot which had most of the songs on there.
The album sounds amazing, the ‘binaural’ effect is very noticeable on a few tracks imo. Of the girl especially with the jangley acoustic in one zone and the Neil Young style power strum off some place else. Really beautiful song. The lower vocal on Breakerfall was a nice surprise as was the cello on Parting Ways - anything that doesn’t translate to the live version basically gave me goosebumps. Still not a fan of Evacuation, I find the chorus a little annoying. The track that was relatively new to me, probably only heard it once before somewhere, was Rival. The dog at the start is awesome and the whoops and yelling, piano, its all just fantastic! Soon forget takes me back to Wembley gig when Eddie took to the stage for an encore and played a ukulele and my head exploded, the thought of him alone on stage in that huge stadium sitting on a stool playing that small instrument just makes me smile every time I hear it. So yeah, bloody great album this, very angry, a little sad and occasionally cheeky. Will be interesting experiencing Backspacer after getting into this one I expect. Played Binaural twice today and could do with something a little uplifting now…maybe I need a fix of The Fixer.
Fit's well in that little collection, doesn't it? Very nice response. Glad you liked it.
'Evacuation' gets a lot of shit for the chorus being "annoying" or "going nowhere" but I think it is clever because of the simplicity. I think Ed is using his voice just like a warning siren - wailing monotonously, panicking. It reminds me of the noise of a WW2 air raid siren (not that I was there, you realise!) and I think that fits the meaning of the song.
Evac-u-a-tion...Evac-u-a-tion...Evac-u-a-tion...Evac-u-a-tion...Evac-u-a-tion
Now imagine people running around in a blind panic, breaking shop fronts to steal the cheese and canned goods and you'll enjoy the song more...