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jfconnorjr
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I know I am being picky but....
There was a guy that got a little picked on for a "NO EVEN FLOW" t-shirt at Chicago II. But he does have a point?
Corduory was played at all three shows as the second song
Even Flow (while great) was also played three times
Alive, three times.
Yellowledbetter in Chicago 1 & 2 with Star Spangled Banner both nights as the closer.
These are great songs without a doubt but could the continuous play be killing them?
There was a guy that got a little picked on for a "NO EVEN FLOW" t-shirt at Chicago II. But he does have a point?
Corduory was played at all three shows as the second song
Even Flow (while great) was also played three times
Alive, three times.
Yellowledbetter in Chicago 1 & 2 with Star Spangled Banner both nights as the closer.
These are great songs without a doubt but could the continuous play be killing them?
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Hahaha, someone actually wore a 'NO EVEN FLOW' shirt at Chicago? Thats brilliant.
I think its beyond killing now.. EF and Alive have been played over 500/600 times..and well Yellow Ledbetter must be up there too.
They have got to play these songs for the average fan, im suprised Jeremy is played so rarely tbh, but aside from all the usuals they always pull out something nice so its okay
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Not everyone is fortunate enough to see multiple shows, there are actually going to be people in the crowd every single night that have never seen Pearl Jam live or have never seen the songs you mention.
If you are tired of them, don't go.
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if you're sick of them, perhaps it's time to evaluate why you actually like this band
I'll be honest, I skip them on the boots, but I rocked my ass off to them live on Sunday! They truly are amazing songs.
I only went to one show.. they have multiple shows for people who couldn't get into the first show. Not the assholes who go to every show and then bitch about songs being replayed.. how do you think they mixed the setlists up in 1990 through 1995? They played the same damn songs every night!
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I don't know how to answer this but i'll try seeing i've had a bit of a moan sometimes of hearing a core group of songs a lot of the time.
Firstly people say stop going to so many shows, well this defies the point, if people want to hear more different songs then they arn't going to lower their chances if they just go to one. I must say i didn't enjoy hearing the same songs like Do The Evo, Betterman, Even Flow, Alive, Yellow Ledbetter, Given To Fly ETC when i hadn't seen them so many times as there were SOO many other songs (which are better) that I wanted to hear. But now as i've seen a lot of songs im just mega happy with whatever comes, i still really enjoy the usual songs, perhaps not as much as hearing In My Tree or something obscure like that that but thats pretty understandable.
**edit** and it obviously expected to hear these songs but when you havent seen that many shows and you have travelled a long way to see the following shows, you want to hear something else for your efforts heh but PJ are great and you will always hear something amazing
and did anyone think that maybe the band like to play those songs?
Good stuff.
That being said, I was really hoping that they would skip it at least one of the two nights here, but as it turns out, I'm glad they didn't. It's one thing if they just went through the motions when playing the "old standards" but they absolutely killed it both nights.
Yeah for sure man, they must like them or im sure they would have retired them. They definatly wouldn't be playing them for the hell of it and just bringing a crowd.....well there maybe a bit of that actually ;p
I appreciate the handful of good comments, I enjoy these song too but sometimes feel that you can get burnt out either seeing it live or listening to boots with it on there.
Bathrooms don't lie... when Evenflow starts the bathrooms get crowded and people hit next on the CD/Ipod.
I could never ever ever go to the toilet whilst Pearl Jam were playing in the same building as me! Maybe in USA its not that bad as you guys have seating and in GA over here you would just loose position but seriously missing very very rare live pj for a trivial thing you do everyday...
Kind of a dick move to show up to a show with a shirt like that.
I still get excited like a kid at xmas when i hear the first few notes of all these so called overplayed songs. i know some of you would prefer if they came out and played all B Sides, but that's just never going to happen. and you know what? that's what makes PJ a GREAT live band, not just for the diehards, but for the people who got dragged their by a GF or the person going to their 1st or 2nd show.
My feelings are that PJ really tries to maintain a good relationship with their fans and having a tradition is part of a good relationship. Like kissing your spouse every day, or making the same PB&J sandwich for your kid for lunch every day. It makes you feel connected and part of something special.
Or maybe Mike just really really loves to play Evenflow. Personally, I feel kind of let down if the show doesn't end with Yellow Ledbetter. Either way, I'll keep coming back for more because the live shows do it for me!!!!
I was 8th row and IMO they still play evenflow just as hard as they did 15 years ago if not harder. I don't care what they play as long as they put their heart and soul into every song they play,which they do night after night and year after year.Thank you Pearl Jam... for 2 incredible nights at the united center
...Although I guess that was actually a drum duo.
duuuude, corduroy will out live us all. don't you get that? it will still be playing long after were dead.
the only thing that disappointed me about corduroy was that it should be in the 3rd slot in
i only see the band live maybe 1-2 times a year and how can anyone get tired of ANY song?? i just don't get that...and hope i never do.
people always get uptight about repeats and say things like pearl jam plays 3 hour shows and change up their setlists every night.
the truth of the matter is that most pearl jam shows are two hours or less if you cut the off time.
"changing the setlists" simply means they don't play the same songs in the same order. tool plays the same songs in the same order night after night. nine inch nails did too, up until this last round of shows.
if you go to two shows in a row, you'll hear some of the same songs. if you want two nights without a repeat, you better get into phish or another jamband.
use bad religion in chicago as an example. the same songs, even the same banter between them. pj doesn't do this, thats changing the setlist, not avoiding a duplication.
ed can't remember the words to some of the songs he sings every night, lol, how do you think it would be if they tried to do no repeats.
i think people wait for the rare bustouts so they can say they were there on a message board and have bragging rights.
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If Pearl Jam played the same set every show.... would you check the set list every night? Would you go to more than one show if you could? Would you buy countless bootlegs?
Lets not kid ourselves...
None of us would be on this board if we didn't LOVE Evenflow, Alive, or the rest.
All I am saying is a steady diet of these songs makes them less special.
It is evolution..... baby
The first time I saw them at Wembley in 2007, they ended with Immoratlity which was teriffic, we got Rockin In The Free World too. I was quite disappointed we didn't get Ledbetter. At Shepherd's Bush, we got The Real Me which is a new cover and Ledbetter which blew me away. I was kind of disappointed they ended with Ledbetter at the 02 but did it impact on a great night? Of course it didn't. I would have liked to have heard something else but there was only about 2000 fans at SBE and ten times that at the 02. They played the better set list at the bigger gig with cool stuff like Rats, Blood and Light Years played. I agree with a previous poster, I could hear Corduroy all day it's one of my favourites.
Bands will always play their best hits at gigs, always will and always have. Alive is a fantastic song and really gets the crowd going, Evenflow (especially at Shepherd's Bush) was amazing and I expect the majoirty of PJ fans to jump up and down. If you don't like it, go to the toilet, move to the back, whatever. You would never get U2 playing just their new album - stuff like One, The Streets Have No Name etc will be played without question. The same will be said for Green Day and Basket Case, Foo Fighters and Everlong and Oasis and Wonderwall. They won't play them EVERY night but on the majority - because that's what the fans want.
I went to see Silverchair in Manchester a few years back. They played most of their new album and a few things from the previous two albums. They didn't play any of their old stuff which made them famous and quite popular. I loved the show, many of the fans hated it as they has pre-concieved ideas of a setlist before they went in. Which is never a good thing.
I heard about 40 DIFFERENT songs in the two recent London shows by the way. How many bands would do that?
Seen Pearl Jam 4 times in London, once in Manchester, as well as an Eddie show at Hammersmith.
Personally I could do without evenflow. And it was never a favorite of mine, even back in 1992. However, overall I was really happy with the small number of repeats from show to show and thrilled with all the variety.
...but, live, both nights in Chicago? Totally face melting bliss. The first night I took a friend who not only had never seen a Pearl Jam show, he probably would be hard pressed to list more than 4 PJ song titles... and when we left he just kept talking about how blown away he was by Mike's guitar work...
I love Evenflow live. I love the fact that even playing it pretty much every show of their long and illustrious career, it's never felt tired. It's always slightly different.
As for the 4 or 5 other repeats from night 1 and two in Chicago? Yeah, they all absolutely rocked, too...
I made the drive to Chicago and came up with a list of 7 songs I hadn't seen live that I would love to cross off while I was in town.
I get to cross off 5 of those songs now, and that's not counting at the Backspacer tunes.
No other band I've seen puts on a show as diverse, energetic and amazing night after night... period.
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Well i dont really think of anything when pj take the stage, on numerous times i've been mega starving, thirsty, or had really bad pains but when PJ come on it all goes out of the window.
I also have figured out the less you drink the less you need the toilet..
There has never been a time at any show where either of us has considered using the john. I don't care if it's just Ed farting into a microphone, we're not leaving our seats. After 19 shows, the experience of just being there is too much to miss. Which is why I also don't understand people who get trashed or baked at the shows, but as long as they're not puking on me or coughing up white foam on my shoes (that happened), to each his own.
The bathroom folks are more annoying tho, cuz as I rock out, someone starts pushing in front of me for a leak and a beer.
Anyway... off topic...
My 2nd show, I wrote a review somewhere on the interwebs, and one of my comments was "Cons: No Alive?". That was my second show. I remember wanting to know where the hits were. Now, 19 in, my wife and I groan a little when Even Flow is busted out, but we still rock to it. We've never *not* seen Even Flow, and only missed DTE once, but we can still get into it. The show we go to where Even Flow is not played will be a trophey on our mantle.
Same here. No matter how many times they play a song live I've heard that I'm sick of, I couldn't leave the show to go take a piss break!!
Just my opinion.